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  • ukjules
    Forum Sage
    • Jan 2015
    • 1225
    • Somerset, UK

    #1

    Running in new engine techniques

    GS550E 1980.
    A second engine is fitted. This has been
    stored for years but it was overhauled by
    a knowledgeable chap. Assume so !
    Assume the engine was made up by a obsessional
    expert with time on his hands . That
    sort of quality.

    How should one run in new engine ?

    assume :
    Head fully reconditioned.
    valves lapped and new seals.
    Probably new rings (possibly pistons)
    We prob must assume a new bottom end.
    UKJULES
    ---------------------------------
    Owner of following bikes:
    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E
  • Rich82GS750TZ
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    • Jun 2018
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    #2
    That’s a lot of assuming.
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    • zed1015
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      • Oct 2020
      • 411
      • North Lincolnshire - UK .

      #3
      If all that's correct then just ride as normal.
      Don't thrash it but don't baby it.
      Make it pull through the revs and use plenty of engine braking to push the rings into the bores.
      All that ride under 4k rpms for 500 miles or whatever running in procedure is cobblers.
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      • Nessism
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        • Mar 2006
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        #4
        Riding in an assertive city driving manner is good. The rings need pressure to bed into the cylinder wall so don't baby the engine. 50 or 75 miles should be plenty and then progressively add more aggressive riding. Be sure to do a 500-600 mile service where you dump the oil, adjust the valves, and torque the head. Making sure the head nuts are tight is particularly important since aftermarket gaskets which often crush down thus the torque may fall off.
        Ed

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        • ukjules
          Forum Sage
          • Jan 2015
          • 1225
          • Somerset, UK

          #5
          For my RD 250 2 stroke a chap from
          yam forum said to me
          "ride it like you had stolen it"
          Like that one but prob best for 2 strokes....

          points noted.

          one needs to be here to see the quality
          of the old engineers work who reconditioned
          this engine. I am only now beginning to realise this
          is like new ! Every thread is perfect.

          We shall see soon !
          UKJULES
          ---------------------------------
          Owner of following bikes:
          1980 Suzuki GS550ET
          1977 Yamaha RD 250D
          1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
          1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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          • Sandy
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            • Feb 2004
            • 7507
            • Cranbrook, BC Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by Nessism
            Riding in an assertive city driving manner is good. The rings need pressure to bed into the cylinder wall so don't baby the engine. 50 or 75 miles should be plenty and then progressively add more aggressive riding. Be sure to do a 500-600 mile service where you dump the oil, adjust the valves, and torque the head. Making sure the head nuts are tight is particularly important since aftermarket gaskets which often crush down thus the torque may fall off.
            What Ed says but to be a little extra prudent, or anal perhaps, I would do a retorque after a couple of heat cycles as well as one at the first service.
            '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM)

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            • ukjules
              Forum Sage
              • Jan 2015
              • 1225
              • Somerset, UK

              #7
              All noted ... and I'm armed with exact torque data.
              UKJULES
              ---------------------------------
              Owner of following bikes:
              1980 Suzuki GS550ET
              1977 Yamaha RD 250D
              1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
              1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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              • Nessism
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                #8
                Originally posted by Sandy
                What Ed says but to be a little extra prudent, or anal perhaps, I would do a retorque after a couple of heat cycles as well as one at the first service.
                Agree. With OEM gaskets you can wait for the first service but a lot of aftermarket gaskets suck and crush down way too fast. If the engine has a green base gasket (Athena brand) you may as well pull the top end off now and save yourself the trouble.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                • slayer61
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                  • Jun 2018
                  • 302
                  • Stuck in Lodi, again

                  #9
                  Originally posted by zed1015
                  If all that's correct then just ride as normal.
                  Don't thrash it but don't baby it.
                  Make it pull through the revs and use plenty of engine braking to push the rings into the bores.
                  All that ride under 4k rpms for 500 miles or whatever running in procedure is cobblers.
                  ^^ Do it like zed says. It has worked for me with race bikes & road bikes both.
                  Paul


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                  • ukjules
                    Forum Sage
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 1225
                    • Somerset, UK

                    #10
                    One quest :

                    At first start up should I put a drop of oil
                    in each spark plug hole ?
                    UKJULES
                    ---------------------------------
                    Owner of following bikes:
                    1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                    1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                    1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                    1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                    • Grimly
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                      • Ireland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ukjules
                      One quest :

                      At first start up should I put a drop of oil
                      in each spark plug hole ?
                      Turn it over with a teaspoon of oil in each cylinder, then put the plugs in and start it.
                      Dave
                      '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
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                      • Rob S.
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                        • Dec 2013
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                        #12
                        Do like the manual says. So says Cycle World.
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                        • ukjules
                          Forum Sage
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 1225
                          • Somerset, UK

                          #13
                          Engine braking:

                          Bike engine in bike and first runs going ahead.
                          engine is sweet.

                          engine braking what exactly is that ?
                          simply throttling off ? and coasting ?
                          UKJULES
                          ---------------------------------
                          Owner of following bikes:
                          1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                          1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                          1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                          1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                          • Nessism
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 35790
                            • Torrance, CA

                            #14
                            Throttle off, clutch out, using the engine to slow down the bike. Engine rpm should be somewhat highish.
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

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                            • chuck hahn
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                              • May 2009
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                              • Norman, Oklahoma

                              #15
                              heres a little read on the subject.


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