650 kickstart doable?

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  • timebombprod
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    650 kickstart doable?

    was wondering if i could make my bike a kickstart aswell, i know the 650s never had them but early 550, 750, and 850 models had them (maybe more). is there a possibility of swapping the cases out to make it work or is there a whole extra assembly im missing for it to be done.
    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • rphillips
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    • Jun 2005
    • 7616
    • Norene TN

    #2
    Nope, not a chance...Just my opinion.
    1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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    • timebombprod
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      • Nov 2019
      • 1666
      • spring hill florida

      #3
      Originally posted by rphillips
      Nope, not a chance...Just my opinion.
      well if you cant, you cant lol.
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • Darthjames21
        Forum Apprentice
        • Nov 2020
        • 34
        • minneapolis minnesota

        #4
        people use the 650 top end on a 550 bottom end to make more power, but also from what i undertand the 550 and 650 bottom ends are the same or close to the same??
        1978 gs550e "drag bike"
        1979 gs550l 1st bike
        1981 gs650gl cruiser
        1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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        • Guest

          #5
          Except that the 650 never had provisions for a kicker. The 550 had one through the '79 model. Not sure if the cases changed for '80, other than plugging the hole.

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          • timebombprod
            Forum Sage
            • Nov 2019
            • 1666
            • spring hill florida

            #6
            Originally posted by phydeauxmutt
            Except that the 650 never had provisions for a kicker. The 550 had one through the '79 model. Not sure if the cases changed for '80, other than plugging the hole.

            when you say provision is there a whole bar or design im missing internally in the engine, itd be nice to just do a case swap to make it a kick.
            Ian

            1982 GS650GLZ
            1982 XS650

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            • Big T
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              • Mar 2005
              • 12392
              • West Slope, OR

              #7
              The 650 wouldn't have the mounting boss for the kick start shaft inside the cases
              1978 GS 1000 (since new)
              1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
              1978 GS 1000 (parts)
              1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
              1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
              1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
              2007 DRz 400S
              1999 ATK 490ES
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              • Darthjames21
                Forum Apprentice
                • Nov 2020
                • 34
                • minneapolis minnesota

                #8
                Originally posted by phydeauxmutt
                Except that the 650 never had provisions for a kicker. The 550 had one through the '79 model. Not sure if the cases changed for '80, other than plugging the hole.
                im just guessing if you wanted you could use a 70s up to 79 550 case with kick and do the 650 top end and have a kick. im no expert just my guess.
                1978 gs550e "drag bike"
                1979 gs550l 1st bike
                1981 gs650gl cruiser
                1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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                • salty_monk
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                  #9
                  If it’s just for the look… fake it. Lever doesn’t have to function….. with the small lithium batteries these days there is no real need for a kicker.
                  1980 GS1000G - Sold
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                  • timebombprod
                    Forum Sage
                    • Nov 2019
                    • 1666
                    • spring hill florida

                    #10
                    Originally posted by salty_monk
                    If it?s just for the look? fake it. Lever doesn?t have to function?.. with the small lithium batteries these days there is no real need for a kicker.
                    if i put one on id be wishing all the time that i could actually kick the bike over lol. seems so cool to kickstart a 4 cylinder bike, or any fullsize bike for that matter. 1200cc bikes getting kicked over sounds wild.
                    Ian

                    1982 GS650GLZ
                    1982 XS650

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      If you insist on going all retro with a kicker, don't forget to remove the electronic ignition and put points back in.

                      While you're at it, go ahead and remove all the instruments and suspension.

                      If you're going "retro", may as well go at least 100 years.

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                      • Rich82GS750TZ
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                        • Jun 2018
                        • 5574
                        • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

                        #12
                        Does this bike run reliably yet?
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                        • tom203
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                          • Norway,Maine

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ
                          Does this bike run reliably yet?
                          Come on man?what a silly question
                          1981 gs650L

                          "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                          • Rich82GS750TZ
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                            • Jun 2018
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                            #14
                            I know. I keep pulling for Ian, I really am. I was hoping that maybe he just forgot to tell us that the bike is running great and that he’s now only left with frivolous things to add to the bike, like a Kickstarter.
                            Last edited by Rich82GS750TZ; 09-19-2021, 03:58 PM.
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                            • Guest

                              #15
                              I saw a video some time ago of the bike "running". "Screaming" would be a better description.

                              If that is his overall intention, it might be better if it's NOT running.

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