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  • chuck hahn
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    • May 2009
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    • Norman, Oklahoma

    #1

    Basket Springs

    Search feature hasn't shown any results for clutch basket spring part numbers. If anyone has this info or has bought springs elsewhere to rebuild clutch baskets could you please share the information. Thanks.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
  • Nessism
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    #2
    Shimming the springs with washers is the standard fix. For some model bikes, the 1100E for example, there are aftermarket backplate/spring/rivet kits. There used to be kits for the chain drive 1000 as well but they are getting rare at this point.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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    • chuck hahn
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      #3
      I would have to believe 1100 is the same as the 1000.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      • Nessism
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        #4
        Originally posted by chuck hahn
        I would have to believe 1100 is the same as the 1000.
        Nope. Different.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

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        • chuck hahn
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          #5
          How? longer, shorter, thinner???
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          • Nessism
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            #6
            The chain drive 1000 basket is larger in diameter and holds less plates.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

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            • chuck hahn
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              #7
              OK. So im trying to understand why that makes the dampner springs any different... im not talking about pressure plates springs here.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              • salty_monk
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                #8
                Ed knows what you're talking about... both he & I have broken apart GS1000 baskets & shimmed them in the past. The springs have never been available.
                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                • Brendan W
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                  • Jul 2013
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                  • Wexford, Ireland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuck hahn
                  OK. So im trying to understand why that makes the dampner springs any different... im not talking about pressure plates springs here.
                  At a wild guess they are trying to shift the buzzy driveline harmonics away from places the bike would operate in ?
                  97 R1100R
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                  80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                  • Nessism
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                    #10
                    For what it's worth...

                    Like Dan mentioned, both he and I rebuilt a chain drive 1000 clutch hub by shimming the springs with washers. It helped reduce the rattling effect greatly. On another GS1000 bike I wound up with the clutch hub was rebuilt with a HD backplate and springs, and that clutch had even better performance; it didn't rattle at all and had a smoother engagement response.

                    SPS GS1000 Clutch Rebuild Kit. Shock Springs and Rivets. Suzuki Performance Spares, your premier source for quality new and used motorcycle parts.


                    The above kit offers springs and rivets. No back plate though. It wouldn't be overly difficult to fabricate one yourself though.
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

                    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                    • chuck hahn
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                      • Norman, Oklahoma

                      #11
                      Thats the kind of experienced response i was looking for Dan and Eds. I have a MIG welder and many decades of welding experiences so reworking the zookie back plate should be nothing hard. APE wanted around 185 bucks so thats why i asked of i could just get springs. My mad plan was to grind the rivets flush, pop off the plate, and weld it back on. I THINK the springs in the burgundy and orange 78 1000C are going south.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      • garyS-NJ
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                        • Oct 2016
                        • 240
                        • NJ

                        #12
                        I shimed the basket springs on my '79gs1K and stopped the clutch rattle. after that tho and with a new clutch it seems a bit grabby and launches. fun to ride.
                        1979 gs1000e (everyday) 1977 gs750 for sale
                        1983 yam xj550 maxim streetbob sold
                        1995 gsx750F everyday fighterjet 1990 gsx1100F for sale
                        2000kaw zx600
                        2003 BMW K1200GT sport tour
                        2000Buel Cyclone M2 motorwork
                        1984 Yam venture xvz1200 -long ride/cold ride ride gf ride..
                        1978 Honda cb750F3 supersport top end (still)
                        1976 Harley FL 3/8" S&S stroker - motor out way too long
                        1980 Harley fxs80 - wacked good on this one

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                        • Spiff
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                          • Dec 2013
                          • 318
                          • Norway

                          #13
                          So you can use a mig welder right? You don't have to tig the rivets back on? I just got new hd springs and rivets from suzukiperformanceparts.co.uk.
                          Was hoping i could complete the job without having to outsource to someone with a tig welder

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                          • salty_monk
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn
                            Thats the kind of experienced response i was looking for Dan and Eds. I have a MIG welder and many decades of welding experiences so reworking the zookie back plate should be nothing hard. APE wanted around 185 bucks so thats why i asked of i could just get springs. My mad plan was to grind the rivets flush, pop off the plate, and weld it back on. I THINK the springs in the burgundy and orange 78 1000C are going south.
                            This is all I did except I paid a guy to tig weld it shut after clamping. Cost $25. Remember it spins so you somewhat need it balanced.

                            I've seen a piece on a smaller bike in a british cycle mag where they drill & tap and bolt the thing back together. Lower powered bike though....

                            Mine has been in there for about 10,000 miles now. No rattle. Upgrade the nut too. Either Ape or the 1150 model one.
                            1980 GS1000G - Sold
                            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                            www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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