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  • Nessism
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    Soda Blasting Cylinder Head

    Any need to plug up access to the oil galleys when soda blasting a cylinder head? Going to blast a head today and it would be nice to blast the combustion chamber and everything, but the media will likely get into the blind oil passages. I realize of course that the soda is water soluble, but try dissolving soda in water and watch how long it takes. Thinking it may be best to block the passages before blasting or maybe fully mask the head regardless but not sure.
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  • chuck hahn
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    #2
    Never hurts to do all possible to keep even the most sedate materials from getting in...in my opinion.
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    • chuck hahn
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      #3
      Your only allotted so many curse words.......save them for a good reason...LOL
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      • Agemax
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        #4
        no need to block anything up. just wash it thoroughly with hot water afterwards and blow it dry. as you say, soda is disolvable (at quite low temperatures).
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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        • Nessism
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          #5
          Originally posted by Agemax
          no need to block anything up. just wash it thoroughly with hot water afterwards and blow it dry. as you say, soda is disolvable (at quite low temperatures).
          Takes a long time to dissolve though.
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          • Agemax
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            #6
            Originally posted by Nessism
            Takes a long time to dissolve though.
            not in hot water it doesn't
            1978 GS1085.

            Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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            • Nessism
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              So put the head in the bathtub then for final wash down? I could do that!
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              • Agemax
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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism
                So put the head in the bathtub then for final wash down? I could do that!
                without being funny, yes. thats what i do. put it in the bath and blast it with a hot shower. thats how i do all my carbs to.
                That is why soda is so good for cleaning things like heads and carbs, it washes away without a trace
                1978 GS1085.

                Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                • JTGS850GL
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                  #9
                  Yes, the soda material does dissolve, but some the debris that was blasted away does not. I'd plug any critical oil passages with something that wont allow chunks of blasted off paint to enter. Just thinking that it could prevent potential problems and shouldn't take much time to do. I tend to lean toward a more cautious stance on things like this.
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                  • Nessism
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                    #10
                    Gotter done. NOT as simple as just water rinsing after completion. I scrubbed this thing down and blew out the passages three times before being confident it was properly clean.

                    Glad it's done!



                    Ed

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                    • rapidray
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nessism
                      So put the head in the bathtub then for final wash down? I could do that!
                      Actually, the dishwasher works much better.
                      Ray.

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                      • Nessism
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                        #12
                        Nissan (where I used to work) used a fancy washing system that functioned much like a dishwasher, only the parts rotated through on a carousel system. This system was designed to remove dust and such though. What I noticed when cleaning this head is that there was a fair bit of grit and foreign material trapped down in the blind passages, such as down in threaded bolt holes and the like. You can feel the particles fly out and hit your hand when you aim the airgun nozzle to shoot into these nooks and crannies. I don't think a dishwasher will help root out this stuff. You need to follow through with the air and make sure the passages are properly clean.
                        Ed

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                        • 60ratrod

                          #13
                          Sounds like a large sonic cleaner would be more effective at removing the crud once you're done

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                          • Joe Garfield

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                            Can you comment a little on your setup and the process? I have been learning about soda blasting and am thinking about trying it, not sure when or on what yet though.

                            Originally posted by Nessism
                            Gotter done. NOT as simple as just water rinsing after completion. I scrubbed this thing down and blew out the passages three times before being confident it was properly clean.

                            Glad it's done!



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                            • Nessism
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joe Garfield
                              Can you comment a little on your setup and the process? I have been learning about soda blasting and am thinking about trying it, not sure when or on what yet though.
                              Used one of these cheesy Harbor Freight guns and a bag of soda from same. Used about 1/3 of the bag, now liberally spread all over my back yard. Tried to contain the media in the blast cabinet but couldn't see through the cloud. Blasting in the open air, with dust mask and eye protection of course, was much easier.

                              Put bolts in the various holes (something I didn't do, but recommend now) and plug the openings to any oil system passages. When done, scrub, scrub, and scrub some more. Any trapped grit will tear up your engine so clean knowing if you mess up, the engine will suffer. Fear is a good motivator on something like this (although the real fear with soda isn't super high).

                              Last edited by Nessism; 11-10-2014, 02:07 PM.
                              Ed

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