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    No fuel through carb, where do I start?

    1982 GS1100GL. I recently rebuilt carbs and looks like I got something wrong. Number one cylinder not firing. I have spark, compression is 150. I pulled the number one spark plug, poured some go juice in the hole, replaced the plug, started the engine and number one fired. There is gas in the number one carb bowl. Mixture screw is a shade over 2.5 turns out. Petcock is new. All other cylinders fine. No obvious defects in intake boot, though I know that's not worth much. I'm thinking I need to pull the carbs to get a better look at number one, but not sure where to begin after that. Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Rusty Studebaker; 11-01-2023, 04:48 PM.
    1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
    1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
    2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
    2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
    2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
    2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
    2014 Yamaha V Star 950
    2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
    2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
    2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

    #2
    When rebuilding, did you follow this? Replace all the O-rings?

    Ed

    To measure is to know.

    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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      #3
      I did it with the aid of youtube before I found this forum. Watching the Series right now so will return to this in the morning. Thanks for the link.
      1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
      1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
      2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
      2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
      2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
      2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
      2014 Yamaha V Star 950
      2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
      2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
      2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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        #4
        Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View Post
        I did it with the aid of youtube before I found this forum. Watching the Series right now so will return to this in the morning. Thanks for the link.
        Link to series?
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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          #5
          That's the World Series.
          1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
          1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
          2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
          2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
          2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
          2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
          2014 Yamaha V Star 950
          2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
          2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
          2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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            #6
            Remove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over # 1 carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...

            Texas earned that championship...

            edited for carb #... I forgot to space LOL
            Last edited by unfocused; 11-02-2023, 09:18 AM.
            Current:
            1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
            1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
            1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
            1998 Chevy C2500
            1999 Rav4

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              #7
              Originally posted by unfocused View Post
              Remove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over Home carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...

              Texas earned that championship...
              Thanks, I suspect that it's something simple. I probably put something back together wrong, and maybe this will help me figure out what it is. I'm reassembling the brakes later today after the caliper rebuild kits arrive in the mail, so this will give me something to do until they get here.

              Yes, the Rangers certainly did earn the victory, just as surely as the Phillies were the architects of their own demise.
              1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
              1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
              2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
              2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
              2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
              2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
              2014 Yamaha V Star 950
              2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
              2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
              2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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                #8
                Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View Post

                Thanks, I suspect that it's something simple. I probably put something back together wrong, and maybe this will help me figure out what it is. I'm reassembling the brakes later today after the caliper rebuild kits arrive in the mail, so this will give me something to do until they get here.

                Yes, the Rangers certainly did earn the victory, just as surely as the Phillies were the architects of their own demise.
                Sorry but I edited my post for the carb #. I forgot to space... might make better sense..

                One thing I noticed during my carb rebuilds... The float bowl gasket. The dark gray gaskets are thinner (blue circle) and don't protrude into the float pocket. I've had them either stick wide open or closed, hanging up on the gaskets. The float can move slightly from side to side. I made sure my floats were square and I always measure my float level on both sides.

                bowl gasket.png

                Current:
                1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
                1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
                1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
                1998 Chevy C2500
                1999 Rav4

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                  #9
                  These are the ones I have problems with... The difference is minimal but enough to make life fun

                  bowl gasket 2.png
                  Current:
                  1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
                  1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
                  1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
                  1998 Chevy C2500
                  1999 Rav4

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by unfocused View Post
                    These are the ones I have problems with... The difference is minimal but enough to make life fun

                    bowl gasket 2.png
                    If I get no answer from taking off the airbox, maybe I should just pop off the carbs and open that one up.

                    I knew what you meant in your post because I had the same problem and had to go back and edit. Thanks again.
                    1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
                    1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
                    2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
                    2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
                    2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
                    2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
                    2014 Yamaha V Star 950
                    2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
                    2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
                    2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rusty Studebaker View Post

                      Thanks, I suspect that it's something simple. I probably put something back together wrong, and maybe this will help me figure out what it is. I'm reassembling the brakes later today after the caliper rebuild kits arrive in the mail, so this will give me something to do until they get here.
                      Did you buy new brake lines? It's critical to do so, because the old rubber deteriorates, and crud builds up inside the lines.

                      Ed

                      To measure is to know.

                      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nessism View Post

                        Did you buy new brake lines? It's critical to do so, because the old rubber deteriorates, and crud builds up inside the lines.
                        Yeppers. Just finished putting everything back together. I used Spiegler braided steel lines. Ordered custom lengths (dumped the splitter) on Friday, they arrived Wednesday. I like Spieglers because you can turn the fitting to fine-tune the connection. The old lines were original and the calipers were well frozen. Too bad the exhaust is off, otherwise I'd take it around the neighborhood for a test ride.
                        1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
                        1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
                        2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
                        2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
                        2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
                        2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
                        2014 Yamaha V Star 950
                        2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
                        2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
                        2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by unfocused View Post
                          Remove the air box, run the rpm's up to 3000 and place your hand over # 1 carb intake to choke it. Might be something simple. This is a quick fix for a plugged pilot circuit I've used through out my time in the industry. This will also tell you if you have fuel moving through the carb as you will see/feel it...

                          Texas earned that championship...

                          edited for carb #... I forgot to space LOL
                          As soon as I covered the intake, cylinder number one fired. Take my hand away, it goes out. I can't get too excited about riding with my hand over the intake, so I guess this means pull the carbs and clear the pilot circuit? I swapped out the jets when I did the carbs (making sure that the sizes were the same). Any guess on what the most likely way I screwed this up? I guess I should go ahead and pull the carbs.

                          Also: When I pulled the airbox, number one carb had gasoline around its intake.
                          1982 Suzuki GS1100GL (in progress)
                          1981 Honda Gold Wing GL 1100 (in progress)
                          2005 Honda CB900F (919) current
                          2006 Yamaha FJR 1300 (current, coast to coast May 2023)
                          2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R
                          2014 Yamaha V-Star 1300 (Philly to Key West June 2016)
                          2014 Yamaha V Star 950
                          2014 Moto Guzzi California 1400
                          2012 Triumph Bonneville (coast to coast April 2014)
                          2009 Kawasaki Ninja 500 ​

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                            #14
                            Your pilot circuit is plugged. Make sure the pilot jet isn't plugged from the factory...
                            Float isn't stuck or fuel level to low - main would still be in fuel but pilot won't.
                            Make sure the slide is open when you move the idle screw. I found this out and I thought I'd posted a story about it years ago.
                            Fuel could be coming from the float bowl vent? Trying to suck air from somewhere if the slide is closed?
                            Most likely way - you left a q-tip in the pilot circuit

                            There isn't a most likely way and it happens.
                            Left a PM.
                            Current:
                            1993 ZX11 - 2nd build in progress
                            1977 GS750 (710 is getting closer)
                            1998 Kawasaki Voyager - selling
                            1998 Chevy C2500
                            1999 Rav4

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                              #15
                              That was my thought as well. I'd get the carbs back on the bench and make sure I saw flow through the pilot circuit (I take carb cleaner or WD40 spray some down into the pilot jet hole then toot some compressed air in while watching down the carb throat for good even flow through all of those tiny holes near the throttle blade
                              Previous GS fleet: '78 1000C, '79 750E, '81 650G, '82 1100G, '81 1100E
                              Other rides: '77 XS500C, '78 XS1100E, '00 Voyager XII

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