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  • Kentman7
    Forum Apprentice
    • Nov 2023
    • 40
    • North Stonington, Connecticut

    #1

    Pilot jet plug?

    I recently took My 1982 Suzuki GS300L carburetor out to inspect the pilot jets for clogged holes.It was not idling properly and would only run in choke. Found out that I needed to properly plug the vacuum line that goes to the petcock. Ooops.

    When I opened it up, I found that the pilot jet did not have a plug that I see in the service manuals in this site.

    What do those plugs do? And how would the engine run without them? I heard they help create a little vacuum?

    And how the hell does the pilot jet get fuel if there is a plug?
    does it get fuel elsewhere?

    My bike is idling fine now. They only symptom I’m experiencing now is delayed response to the throttle as the rpm’s go crazy high for such a little change in throttle.

    Thank you for any help

    Kent
  • KiwiAlfa156
    Forum Mentor
    • Sep 2012
    • 661
    • New Zealand

    #2
    Hi there, the pilot draws fuel through the main jet. Without the plug the pilot is free to draw fuel directly from the float bowl. The bike will start but the slow/pilot circuit will run a bit rich. The bigger problem is that the fuel by-passes the main jet and it will run super rich on the needle/needle jet and will stutter at about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle and above.



    I speak from experience on this one.
    82 GSX1100SXZ Katana
    82 GSX750SZ Katana
    82 GS650GZ Katana

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    • Kentman7
      Forum Apprentice
      • Nov 2023
      • 40
      • North Stonington, Connecticut

      #3
      Very helpful! Thank you so much

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      • Nessism
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        • Mar 2006
        • 35791
        • Torrance, CA

        #4
        Look at the parts fishe, or in the factory service manual, your carbs don't use the plugs.
        Last edited by Nessism; 11-25-2023, 08:57 AM.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

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        • Kentman7
          Forum Apprentice
          • Nov 2023
          • 40
          • North Stonington, Connecticut

          #5
          Mikuni BS30SS twin carb?

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          • Kentman7
            Forum Apprentice
            • Nov 2023
            • 40
            • North Stonington, Connecticut

            #6
            When I took the carburetor apart I did notice a housing for the pilot jet plug.

            But, the service manual does not mention anything about a pilot jet plug for the GS300L.

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            • rphillips
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              • Jun 2005
              • 7619
              • Norene TN

              #7
              Well, Always learning. Now you know to use the manual and parts diagrams for "YOUR" model bike. Others models aren't necessarily the same.
              1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              • KiwiAlfa156
                Forum Mentor
                • Sep 2012
                • 661
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Yes, Nessism's right. I assumed you had the short pilot jet BS carbs. But it seems the BS30 has the long jets which are exposed in the fuel bowl.
                82 GSX1100SXZ Katana
                82 GSX750SZ Katana
                82 GS650GZ Katana

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                • Kentman7
                  Forum Apprentice
                  • Nov 2023
                  • 40
                  • North Stonington, Connecticut

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KiwiAlfa156
                  Yes, Nessism's right. I assumed you had the short pilot jet BS carbs. But it seems the BS30 has the long jets which are exposed in the fuel bowl.
                  It is a short pilot jet I think. The pilot jet does not come all the way down to the fuel bowl. There is a housing for the plug to fit in, that’s what it looks like anyways.

                  do you know what carb the GS300L has? I hear it was a Mikuni BS30SS twin carb?

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                  • Nessism
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kentman7

                    It is a short pilot jet I think. The pilot jet does not come all the way down to the fuel bowl. There is a housing for the plug to fit in, that’s what it looks like anyways.

                    do you know what carb the GS300L has? I hear it was a Mikuni BS30SS twin carb?
                    Ed

                    To measure is to know.

                    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                    • KiwiAlfa156
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                      • Sep 2012
                      • 661
                      • New Zealand

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kentman7

                      It is a short pilot jet I think. The pilot jet does not come all the way down to the fuel bowl. There is a housing for the plug to fit in, that’s what it looks like anyways.

                      do you know what carb the GS300L has? I hear it was a Mikuni BS30SS twin carb?
                      A photo of the jets in your carbs would be definitive. And a picture of the external + any codes stamped on them.

                      This is the long type pilot



                      As shown in the GS300L carb fisch (part 14)



                      This is the short type.



                      Last edited by KiwiAlfa156; 11-29-2023, 07:44 PM.
                      82 GSX1100SXZ Katana
                      82 GSX750SZ Katana
                      82 GS650GZ Katana

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