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Well I've learned something. But still have some questions. I recently posted about getting "bad gas" in the "Other Questions" section (since I've got one of those "other bikes"), and the state agency overseeing that tested it for me today. The lower of 2 layers in the sample jar I had was likely ethanol and water mixed (had very nearly the same color as gasoline, not completely clear like water). When you have water that has pulled the ethanol out of the blend, it can take quite a while for the water to separate out of the ethanol, unlike 100% gasoline, if I understand correctly.
My question now becomes, Is it possible in a motorcycle gas tank that's plumbed correctly, to have water in the bottom all the time, and never know it?
I have used 100% gas almost exclusively for the nearly 3 years I've had this bike, but I've used E10 a couple of times probably, without issue. I use my Reserve setting towards the end of every tank, without, or at least almost without exception, and I normally put it back on Reserve after filling up, to see if anything weird happens with the new gas (I may not have done this with the recent E10 fill-up since I was at a different place and out of my routine).
That water came from somewhere, and I don't think it was my bike's gas tank. I would think water in the bottom would make it into the system from sloshing around and so forth, even if it was below the lowest level of the tank supply port. And I never get any kind of stuttering or whatnot when using Reserve. That is, I didn't. It's a 6gal tank, and when I fill-up there's usually a gallon left, but I've had less than that in there recently.
So assuming I'm wrong and the problem happens to be my tank as the source of the water (and I never detected it running 100% gas), now I'm saying, this E10 garbage is worse than I thought. Not only did it create a mixture that nearly got me stranded (no phone, inside shoulder of 3 lanes of heavy traffic), but when it separates out like that, you wind up with a lesser octane in the upper layer, which isn't good either, since (this bike) is supposed to have 91 or better.
Regardless, I'm going to be more serious about avoiding that stuff in ALL my vehicles from now on, and supporting the makers and sellers of 100% gasoline. I image (but don't know) that the ethanol stuff is subsidized in some manner, and that it is more expensive and more trouble than just refining and selling 100% gasoline. That's not even accounting for the slightly lesser gas mileage it yields (LOL). Would I be ignorant and arrogant to call that whole idea Stupid? Ah well, wouldn't be the first time, probably.
My question now becomes, Is it possible in a motorcycle gas tank that's plumbed correctly, to have water in the bottom all the time, and never know it?
I have used 100% gas almost exclusively for the nearly 3 years I've had this bike, but I've used E10 a couple of times probably, without issue. I use my Reserve setting towards the end of every tank, without, or at least almost without exception, and I normally put it back on Reserve after filling up, to see if anything weird happens with the new gas (I may not have done this with the recent E10 fill-up since I was at a different place and out of my routine).
That water came from somewhere, and I don't think it was my bike's gas tank. I would think water in the bottom would make it into the system from sloshing around and so forth, even if it was below the lowest level of the tank supply port. And I never get any kind of stuttering or whatnot when using Reserve. That is, I didn't. It's a 6gal tank, and when I fill-up there's usually a gallon left, but I've had less than that in there recently.
So assuming I'm wrong and the problem happens to be my tank as the source of the water (and I never detected it running 100% gas), now I'm saying, this E10 garbage is worse than I thought. Not only did it create a mixture that nearly got me stranded (no phone, inside shoulder of 3 lanes of heavy traffic), but when it separates out like that, you wind up with a lesser octane in the upper layer, which isn't good either, since (this bike) is supposed to have 91 or better.
Regardless, I'm going to be more serious about avoiding that stuff in ALL my vehicles from now on, and supporting the makers and sellers of 100% gasoline. I image (but don't know) that the ethanol stuff is subsidized in some manner, and that it is more expensive and more trouble than just refining and selling 100% gasoline. That's not even accounting for the slightly lesser gas mileage it yields (LOL). Would I be ignorant and arrogant to call that whole idea Stupid? Ah well, wouldn't be the first time, probably.
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