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  • Remington44-77

    #1

    excess vacuum ports

    I have a 1978 GS 1000 C with the following mods; 1100 cc big bore kit, Vance & Hines 4 into 1 tubes, K&N pods, Pingal fuel valve, Dyna 2000 ignition box with crank trigger & 2.2 ohm gray coils. The carbs are VM-26 SB with a Dynojet stage three kit, 128 main jets and the needle on step two.
    My question is; is there any reason not to cap the three vacuum ports on the carbs? I've currently got them capped as I don't see any useful function for them.
  • Frank Z.
    Forum Sage
    Past Site Supporter
    • Sep 2009
    • 1458
    • Austin, TX

    #2
    Would capping the vent tubes not allow for pressure equalization... thus allowing flooding to occur? Have you tried priming and/or running the carbs with caps installed?
    '80 GS1000ST
    '92 ZX-11
    Past rides: '79 GS1000SN, '84 GPZ900R

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    • Agemax
      Forum Guru
      • Apr 2008
      • 8371
      • plymouth uk

      #3
      cap the vacuum port between 2 & 3 carbs but Not the 2 other ports, they are vents for the float bowls. the bike will not run right if all 3 are capped
      1978 GS1085.

      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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      • Steve
        GS Whisperer
        • Jun 2005
        • 35924
        • southwest oHIo

        #4
        Originally posted by Agemax
        cap the vacuum port between 2 & 3 carbs but Not the 2 other ports, they are vents for the float bowls. the bike will not run right if all 3 are capped
        That port is actually on carb #3, but the rest of that is accurate.

        They are not "vacuum" ports, they are VENTS. They are the source of the atmospheric referrence for the float bowls that allows your carbs to work.

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        • Remington44-77

          #5
          Thanks, I wasn't sure of their true function. Since I only drive a couple of miles to work each day, with lots of stop lights, they haven't made any noticeable objections yet.

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          • chuck hahn
            Forum LongTimer
            Past Site Supporter
            • May 2009
            • 25918
            • Norman, Oklahoma

            #6
            Number 3 is the vacuum to the petcock...DO NOT EVER cap off the vent nipples. Youll have gas running out the intake sides of the carbs in short order. They must be open so the floats can equalize with the atomospherics pressure as was mentioned earlier.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            • Remington44-77

              #7
              So if I have this right, cap off the second carb from the left, and leave the two right hand carbs open. Or just don't cap anything.?

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              • Agemax
                Forum Guru
                • Apr 2008
                • 8371
                • plymouth uk

                #8
                NO. you cap off number 3 carb and leave 2 and 4 open
                1978 GS1085.

                Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                • Remington44-77

                  #9
                  Thanks
                  Doug Barr

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                  • Big T
                    Forum LongTimer
                    Past Site Supporter
                    Super Site Supporter
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 12390
                    • West Slope, OR

                    #10
                    Nice bike, but like the ad says, it's a 1979 GS1000N.

                    No choke lever, no "skunk" crease in the tank mean 1979

                    Nice bike, very collectible from what I've read. You need to be riding it farther than a few miles each day, needs a good run occasionally to flush out crud

                    Pull off those 2 caps and take it for a good run before winter sets in
                    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                    2007 DRz 400S
                    1999 ATK 490ES
                    1994 DR 350SES

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                    • Remington44-77

                      #11
                      The insurance guy said the serial number made it a 78C. I have ridden it thru the winter before, although I was much younger. Ever break trail in a foot of fresh snow? The winter of 84/85 I rode it to college From Spokane Wa. to Eastern Washington University.Its about a 16 mile ride each way. Snow and Ice make for real tense riding. I don't see me doing that again.

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                      • Steve
                        GS Whisperer
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 35924
                        • southwest oHIo

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Remington44-77
                        So if I have this right, cap off the second carb from the left, and leave the two right hand carbs open. Or just don't cap anything.?
                        Originally posted by Agemax
                        NO. you cap off number 3 carb and leave 2 and 4 open
                        The carbs (and cylinders) are numbered from left to right as you sit on the bike.

                        That means that #1 is under your clutch hand, #4 is under your throttle hand.

                        The vacuum port would be on carb #3, which is the inner carb on the right side of the bike.

                        .
                        sigpic
                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                        • chuck hahn
                          Forum LongTimer
                          Past Site Supporter
                          • May 2009
                          • 25918
                          • Norman, Oklahoma

                          #13
                          If you have a stock petcock, how is it running without vacuum supplied to open the diaphram?? Is this a pingle ON/OFF gravity petcock that doesnt require vacuum? If so, then cap off numer 3 nipple and leave the other 2 open. I ask this question because what type of petcock you have will effect the correctness of the answer.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          • Steve
                            GS Whisperer
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 35924
                            • southwest oHIo

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn
                            If you have a stock petcock, how is it running without vacuum supplied to open the diaphram?? Is this a pingle ON/OFF gravity petcock that doesnt require vacuum?
                            He answered that in the original post, Chuck.
                            Originally posted by Remington44-77
                            I have a 1978 GS 1000 C with the following mods; 1100 cc big bore kit, Vance & Hines 4 into 1 tubes, K&N pods, Pingal fuel valve, Dyna 2000 ignition box with crank trigger & 2.2 ohm gray coils. The carbs are VM-26 SB with a Dynojet stage three kit, 128 main jets and the needle on step two.
                            sigpic
                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            • Guest

                              #15
                              The carbs are VM-26 SB with a Dynojet stage three kit, 128 main jets and the needle on step two.
                              Interesting, my Dynojet stage three kit came with 138 and 142 main jets, I'm using the 138's. I'm assuming you meant to say 138, 128's would be destructively lean.

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