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  • Frank Z.
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    • Sep 2009
    • 1458
    • Austin, TX

    #1

    Question re Pilot Jet size

    Believe i need to go up in pilot jet size, as bike runs/idles best with mixture screws at 5-1/2 turns out Currently running #45s, and wondering if i should move to next size up #47.5s... #50s... larger? Could employ the "order several sets and see" method, but figured the gurus here would have a sharper arrow.

    Some info:
    1980 GS1000S, mods include 1085 kit, street/strip cams, head mildly ported, 4>1 exhaust, factory airbox (w/out lid + K&N filter). Carbs are BS34CV, recent rebuild.

    Bike runs great at speed; just wants more fuel at start-up/idle. Thanks for any insight. ?Frank Z.
    '80 GS1000ST
    '92 ZX-11
    Past rides: '79 GS1000SN, '84 GPZ900R

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  • tom203
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    • Aug 2010
    • 8925
    • Norway,Maine

    #2
    Mixture screws at 5 1/2 turns out !! was there much/any difference from 3 to 5?
    Are you sure your carbs are really clean ? -those idle circuit passages are tiny.
    So I take it has a poor idle even warm?
    1981 gs650L

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    • Frank Z.
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      • Sep 2009
      • 1458
      • Austin, TX

      #3
      Originally posted by tom203
      Mixture screws at 5 1/2 turns out !! was there much/any difference from 3 to 5?
      Are you sure your carbs are really clean ? -those idle circuit passages are tiny.
      So I take it has a poor idle even warm?
      Thanks for reply, Tom. Def a difference from 3 to 5... very lean to strong steady idle. Carbs really really clean. Idles great when warm... at 5+ turns out
      '80 GS1000ST
      '92 ZX-11
      Past rides: '79 GS1000SN, '84 GPZ900R

      http://totalrider.com/

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      • chuck hahn
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        • May 2009
        • 25918
        • Norman, Oklahoma

        #4
        Put new unran plugs in it and run it for about 20 miles at your "normal" freeway speeds out on the loop and see what they look like. Start at the 3 out spot.

        I would say throw a colortune on it, but those who have tried one on CV carbs say it never shows any color changes as you turn the screws??? Don't know myself as I never have out mine in a CV carbed bike.
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        • Steve
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          • Jun 2005
          • 35925
          • southwest oHIo

          #5
          Even at 5+ turns, I think I would only change up one size to a 47.5.

          I think I have seen somewhere that one size is equivalent to about three turns, so that would take you down to about the 2.5 range.

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          • Frank Z.
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            • Sep 2009
            • 1458
            • Austin, TX

            #6
            Originally posted by Steve
            Even at 5+ turns, I think I would only change up one size to a 47.5.

            I think I have seen somewhere that one size is equivalent to about three turns, so that would take you down to about the 2.5 range.
            Thanks, Steve! Will def give the 47.5s a go.

            Originally posted by chuck hahn
            Put new unran plugs in it and run it for about 20 miles at your "normal" freeway speeds out on the loop and see what they look like. Start at the 3 out spot.

            I would say throw a colortune on it, but those who have tried one on CV carbs say it never shows any color changes as you turn the screws??? Don't know myself as I never have out mine in a CV carbed bike.
            Plugs look amazing; nice and ashy gray. Haven't got much useful feedback with ColorTune thingie... but daughter thinks the glow is pretty.
            '80 GS1000ST
            '92 ZX-11
            Past rides: '79 GS1000SN, '84 GPZ900R

            http://totalrider.com/

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              #7
              47.5 will be fine.
              50 will be too big.

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              • chuck hahn
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                • May 2009
                • 25918
                • Norman, Oklahoma

                #8
                Plugs SHOULD NOT be "ashy grey". They should be very lightly tan on the tips of the center porceleans.


                Ashey Grey indicates a very LEAN condition.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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