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  • kinsey
    • Jan 2026

    #1

    wont idle

    put a v&h drag header...went from a 95 main jet to a 120.....runs out good...just wont idle.....
  • chuck hahn
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    • May 2009
    • 25918
    • Norman, Oklahoma

    #2
    Have you also upped the pilot jets? Gave it a little more on the big idle adjuster knob??
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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    • kinsey

      #3
      Originally posted by chuck hahn
      Have you also upped the pilot jets? Gave it a little more on the big idle adjuster knob??
      what size u think...has a 15....maybe a 17.5?

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      • chuck hahn
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        • May 2009
        • 25918
        • Norman, Oklahoma

        #4
        Does it stay running if you give it just a tad throttle once its running? like your compensating with the throttle?
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        • kinsey

          #5
          Originally posted by chuck hahn
          Does it stay running if you give it just a tad throttle once its running? like your with the throttle?
          no...if i turn the idle all the way up....with the fuel screws turned 2.5... it will try to idle ...at 2 turns...wont idle at all ...the paper that come with the v&h header..says 1 to 2 turns on fuel,,screws...
          Last edited by Guest; 06-22-2014, 07:30 PM.

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          • chuck hahn
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            • May 2009
            • 25918
            • Norman, Oklahoma

            #6
            Then I would say the pilot circuit is too lean and would give the 17.5s a go. What position is the clip on the needles at? Can try moving it one slot down also to see if that helps. Move the clips first though before spending jet money.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            • Guest

              #7
              How did the bike run prior to the pipes?

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              • tkent02
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                • Jan 2006
                • 35571
                • Near South Park

                #8
                2.5 turns out on the fuel screws on a VM carb? Where are the ait screws set?

                I think your carbs are all jacked up.
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                • chuck hahn
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                  • May 2009
                  • 25918
                  • Norman, Oklahoma

                  #9
                  Good catch Tom. I was thinking 2 to 2.5 out on CV carbs...my bad for not catching that in his signature.

                  Like Tom said bottom pilot screws only need to be 7/8 out from gently seated. recheck this first for sure. Side ones about 2 out as a general start point.
                  Last edited by chuck hahn; 06-23-2014, 06:28 AM.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  • kinsey

                    #10
                    thanks for all the help...

                    Originally posted by chuck hahn
                    Good catch Tom. I was thinking 2 to 2/5 out on CV carbs...my bad for not catching that in his signature.

                    Like Tom said bottom pilot screws only need to be 7/8 out from gently seated. recheck this first for sure. Side ones about 2 out as a general start point.
                    thanks guys ...what i need to know

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                    • kinsey

                      #11
                      Originally posted by chuck hahn
                      Have you also upped the pilot jets? Gave it a little more on the big idle adjuster knob??
                      up the pilot to 17.5 with idle turn all the way up it idles about 1000....screws on fuel turned 2....what can i do to get a little more idle

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                      • chuck hahn
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                        • May 2009
                        • 25918
                        • Norman, Oklahoma

                        #12
                        If the big idle knob is all the way in and theres no more to give, then I say your bench sync was way off from the get go. To bench sync them, back the idle knob all the way off the throttle linkage so its not touching. Then set the slide gaps. I go bout the thickness of a THIN paper clip. Idea is to have enough gap to get it to start without a lot of idle knob, but be adjusyed low enough so there is still a lot of idle adjustment left....follow me?

                        Once the bench sync is done, THEN touch off the idle knob and add about 2 turns. idle may be a bit high when she starts but NOW youll have lots of idle knob adjustment left.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        • kinsey

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuck hahn
                          If the big idle knob is all the way in and theres no more to give, then I say your bench sync was way off from the get go. To bench sync them, back the idle knob all the way off the throttle linkage so its not touching. Then set the slide gaps. I go bout the thickness of a THIN paper clip. Idea is to have enough gap to get it to start without a lot of idle knob, but be adjusyed low enough so there is still a lot of idle adjustment left....follow me?

                          Once the bench sync is done, THEN touch off the idle knob and add about 2 turns. idle may be a bit high when she starts but NOW youll have lots of idle knob adjustment left.
                          never done that before....so im a little lost .................think i fixed it.....thanks for the help
                          Last edited by Guest; 06-29-2014, 08:39 PM.

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