GS450, No gas to my plugs

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  • greg
    • Jan 2026

    #1

    GS450, No gas to my plugs

    Hi guys, I'm trying to get my '80 GS450L to start, and am not having any luck getting gas to the plugs. I've set floats to 27.2mm, and have cleaned the bejesus out of the carbs a few times, but the plugs are still dry. Gas is getting to the bowls, but I'm wondering if I should lower the float height since that might help gas get to the pilot jet? Any ideas?
  • tkent02
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    Past Site Supporter
    • Jan 2006
    • 35571
    • Near South Park

    #2
    Are the choke feed passages clear?
    Are the butterflies almost closed? If they are open too much the choke is inoperative.
    How about the other passages in the carburetor bodies?
    Where are the mixture screws set? It should start without the choke in warm weather if the mixture screws are set right and their passages are clear. Of course if you're in Tierra Del Fuego you may not be having such warm weather right now.
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    • terrylee

      #3
      My service manual says 21.4-23.4mm for float settings. terrylee

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      • Steve
        GS Whisperer
        • Jun 2005
        • 35924
        • southwest oHIo

        #4
        Originally posted by greg
        I've set floats to 27.2mm, and have cleaned the bejesus out of the carbs a few times, but the plugs are still dry.
        Why have you set them to 27.2? Spec is 22.4 +/-1.0.


        Originally posted by greg
        Gas is getting to the bowls, but I'm wondering if I should lower the float height since that might help gas get to the pilot jet? Any ideas?
        Keep in mind that you are measuring the "height" while the carbs are upside down, so a lower number will actually mean a higher fuel level. You have set the floats so they close when they are 27.2mm below the carb, when they should be 22.4mm. Simply raising the floats to the proper height might do the trick.

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        • greg

          #5
          Whatever my source was for the float heigh was wrong(damn Clymer). I'll readjust them tonight and hope for the best. Thanks guys.

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          • Steve
            GS Whisperer
            • Jun 2005
            • 35924
            • southwest oHIo

            #6
            Actually, the Clymer manual that I consulted had it correct.

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            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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            • greg

              #7
              I was working a few different bikes at once, so I can really only blame myself for probably reading another manual at the time.

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              • Guest

                #8
                Actually the correct float height for the 80 - 82 450's is 26.6 +/- 1.0mm... that is from the factory manual. Both Clymer and Haynes have that incorrectly.

                I've been promising for ages to put up the correct factory carb spec's for the 450's from my factory repro. manual. I have it here in front of me, and while I thought it covered all the '80's 450's, it only has the detailed spec's for the 1980 - 1982 models. So here they are. Measurements are mm (in) Type: Mikuni

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                • greg

                  #9
                  I adjusted the float, and gas seems to be spitting back towards the air filter instead of towards the plugs. I have it timed correctly, or so I thought. Any ideas?

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Are the plugs wet at all or are they dry?

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                    • greg

                      #11
                      Turns out the engine had really low compression. Fun.

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                      • tkent02
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 35571
                        • Near South Park

                        #12
                        Originally posted by greg
                        Turns out the engine had really low compression. Fun.
                        Adjust the valve clearances. Easy.
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                        • greg

                          #13
                          My brother and I tore into the engine a little bit since the valve clearences were good. Their is way too big of a gap between the piston and cylinder. The p.o. really killed this thing.

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