Hard time identifying model of VM carbs on '79 GS 550

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  • roeme
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    • Jul 2015
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    #1

    Hard time identifying model of VM carbs on '79 GS 550

    While I know that I have VM carbs on my 550s, the exact designation eludes me. Pictures I found of VM24, VM26 and VM28 do not match mine.
    While VM29 do look similar, pictures I found are missing certain features on the body and lead me to believe mine are either an earlier batch
    or a different model alltogether.

    Here's a picture (click for full size):



    The rebuild guide on cliff's website pictures the same model, but refers to them simply as 'VM'.

    Does anybody know?

    (I'm asking because I'm trying to source gaskets etc. on this side of the pond; S&H is a beast.)
    #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
    #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
    #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
    #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill
  • roeme
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    #2
    Update; from what I found in the meantime these should be VM22SS.
    #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
    #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
    #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
    #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill

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    • steve murdoch
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      #3
      Sounds right.
      You can measure the inside diameter on the engine side to get the correct size.
      2@ \'78 GS1000

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      • tkent02
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        • Near South Park

        #4
        Looks similar to standard 550 carbs, so VM22. Not Suzuki though, it looks like the vacuum port on #3 was not drilled? Or maybe just can't see it in the picture.
        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

        Life is too short to ride an L.

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        • roeme
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          #5
          Originally posted by steve murdoch
          Sounds right.
          You can measure the inside diameter on the engine side to get the correct size.
          Thanks, that's useful.

          Originally posted by tkent02
          (...) it looks like the vacuum port on #3 was not drilled? Or maybe just can't see it in the picture.
          Just had a look at them to verify; it's not. They're only drilled on #2 and #4, and #1 and #3 are connected to their neighbor.

          On the picture, you can see the short rubber piece connecting 3 and 4 just behind the spring for returning the throttle.
          #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
          #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
          #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
          #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill

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          • Nessism
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            • Mar 2006
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            #6
            You can cut out your own gaskets from common gasket paper. Use a paper hole punch to make the screw holes. I've done this several times and it only takes about 5 mins per gasket. Use one of the old gaskets as a template.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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            • tkent02
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              #7
              OK, so no vacuum port, came from a Kawasaki or something? Or perhaps #3 was replaced with a #1 at some point.
              No big deal, unless you have you heart set on using a vacuum petcock.
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

              Life is too short to ride an L.

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              • roeme
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                • Jul 2015
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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism
                You can cut out your own gaskets from common gasket paper. Use a paper hole punch to make the screw holes. I've done this several times and it only takes about 5 mins per gasket. Use one of the old gaskets as a template.
                I didn't even know that such a thing exists. Man, this forum just keeps on giving. I'll check the nearby motorcycle shop, but I fear they don't carry them.

                Originally posted by tkent02
                OK, so no vacuum port, came from a Kawasaki or something? Or perhaps #3 was replaced with a #1 at some point.
                No big deal, unless you have you heart set on using a vacuum petcock.
                Whoops, sorry, I confused the air vent holes with the vaccum port. It's all there; the vaccum port is simply not visible from this angle; obstructed from view by the non-drilled air vent hole.
                #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
                #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
                #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
                #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill

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