Main air jets and what they do?

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  • Vloukole
    Forum Mentor
    • Nov 2014
    • 168
    • Parys, South Africa

    #16
    I bought new jets cause the old ones were the wrong sizes. Mains were 115 , pilots were 45 with stock airbox and exhaust
    sigpic 1980 GS550E

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    • Guest

      #17
      Yep, sounds like some one fiddled. Mine runs 92.5 mains, and 40 pilots. I can't tell you what effect the new pilot air screws would have, because they have a different numbering system to Mikuni. Basically, a smaller jet would allow insufficient air at idle/low-range, whereas too large a jet would cause it to run lean.

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      • Vloukole
        Forum Mentor
        • Nov 2014
        • 168
        • Parys, South Africa

        #18
        Yes that is the sizes I bought. Lets say the stock size is 160 cause that is what the carbs had in and I change them to 180s. Will the bike run fine?
        sigpic 1980 GS550E

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        • Guest

          #19
          Personally I would stick with the 160s. That's already two sizes up from what I have, but as HH mentioned, that is probably something to do with local regs.

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          • Vloukole
            Forum Mentor
            • Nov 2014
            • 168
            • Parys, South Africa

            #20
            Is yours 140s?
            sigpic 1980 GS550E

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            • Guest

              #21
              No, 150, but if i recall correctly, the sequence goes 150, 155, 160 etc.

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              • Vloukole
                Forum Mentor
                • Nov 2014
                • 168
                • Parys, South Africa

                #22
                That is true. Jets R Us also lists them like that. What is the stock size then cause the manual says nothing about pilot air jets?
                sigpic 1980 GS550E

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                • Guest

                  #23
                  Stock for UK and US is 150. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...at_height.html

                  I wouldn't be overly concerned about having 160s - they may well be the stock size for your market.

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                  • Vloukole
                    Forum Mentor
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 168
                    • Parys, South Africa

                    #24
                    Okay thank you. Will give them a go.
                    sigpic 1980 GS550E

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                    • JTGS850GL
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                      • Aug 2013
                      • 9735
                      • GA

                      #25
                      You keep referring to the "manual". What manual are you using? If you're not using the Factory Service Manual then I would recommend downloading and using it instead.
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                      1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                      1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                      1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                      Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                      JTGS850GL aka Julius

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                      • geol

                        #26
                        Don't mean to add to the confusion but those are pilot air jets. On BS series carbs with Main air jets, there are smaller holes set back into wells cast on the intake flange below the main air jet wells. You question about how the bike would run with a slightly different size. It won't make much difference if you use a slightly different size. The air from these jets augments air that goes under the slide (aka cutaway) to give the pilot circuit some air while the bike is at idle (that is, the slides are all the way down as far as they will go). Small changes in the size of the pilot air jet won't affect operation much unless the slide is changed to one with a HUGE cutaway (mostly seen in VM carbs such as the first GS750s and then you need a MUCH larger pilot jet to compensate for the increased air which also slows airflow velocity through the cutaway at idle. On a BS carb, no one ever seemed to huge a very large cutwaway.

                        The effect of the cutaway and pilot air jet can be observed if you put a set of VM33s on a smaller displacement bike, like a GS750. In this case, the venturi itself is too large for the bike's displacement and you will need a far larger pilot jet than would be normal and cutting down on the pilot air jet (they can be swapped on a VM33 carb) is necessary and even then it will bog right off idle if you open the throttle quickly.

                        The main air jet is often not used as it augments airflow to the main circuit when the bike is at idle.

                        OK, all that said, going from 150 pilot air jets to 160 won't cause any difference that you will be able to detect.

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                        • Vloukole
                          Forum Mentor
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 168
                          • Parys, South Africa

                          #27
                          I am using the Factory Manual.

                          Thanks for all the info.
                          Btw I will start to call the Pilot Air Jet a Pilot Air jet...
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