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    Putting ‘78 gs750 back to stock and can’t find definitive specs on 45020 carbs

    Hi,

    ive been wanting to put my ‘78 gs750c back to stock and finally have the stock exhaust to complete this project. I have the 45020 carbs and can’t find any definitive specifications in the spreadsheet or any of the other tables floating around on this particular carb setup. I took my carbs apart as far as I could and found that it has the 0.6 needle jet, 5f21-3 needle, 1.5 throttle valve cutaway, 15 idle jet, the air jets are unknown due to the fact they don’t appear to be removable. I’m not sure which main jet to go with because there’s conflicting information on whether they came with a 100 jet or a 105 jet. Anybody know which ones these came with?

    thanks
    Matt
    1978 Suzuki GS750

    Past bikes owned:
    1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

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    My chart shows 100 main jets, but that's for the 45030 carbs.

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    Last edited by Steve; 06-26-2018, 09:57 PM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Steve View Post
      My chart shows 100 main jets, but that's for the 45030 carbs.

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      Its very confusing. I guess those were on the 750ec’s. I don’t know why the carbs were different considering the differences between the c and ec were cosmetic.

      matt
      1978 Suzuki GS750

      Past bikes owned:
      1978 Suzuki GS750E, 1979 Suzuki GS750E, 1980 Suzuki GS850, 1977 Suzuki GS550, 1969 Honda CB350, 1976 Harley Davidson SS175, 1979 Motobecane 50V, 1978 Puch Maxi, 1977 Puch Newport, 1980 Tomos Bullet, 1978 Motobecane 50VLA, 1978 AMF Roadmaster

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        #4
        Originally posted by mattd1205 View Post
        Its very confusing. I guess those were on the 750ec’s. I don’t know why the carbs were different considering the differences between the c and ec were cosmetic.

        matt
        So maybe they were the same.
        Jordan

        1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
        2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
        1973 BMW R75/5

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          #5
          Just so you know, the "C" indicates the '78 model year.

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          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
          Family Portrait
          Siblings and Spouses
          Mom's first ride
          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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            #6
            I'm going through something similar with the same bike, and have just learned most of this myself....

            It seems there were carb jetting changes midway through the model year on the 78 750 because of EPA regulations. There are two fiches for the carbs, based on engine #. One is labeled "Emission Style" and is for the later engine numbers. They switched from the 5F21 needle with O-6 needle jet in the original jetting to the 5DL36 and O-4 for the "emission style" jetting.

            From my thread where I'm digging into the same question, but going the other way (jetting to pods and 4-1). Chuck explained the reasoning behind the changes.
            Originally posted by Chuck78 View Post
            The 5DL36 needles are slightly thicker at the base area, but thinner as the taper is more aggressive for more performance at larger throttle openings. But a slightly cleaner idle to satisfy the stricter fuel emissions standards.
            So if you want to go back to the original jetting for the bike, before the emission changes, that would be this fiche here --->https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/su...o-gs750e-19995

            5F21-3 needles, O-6 Needle Jets, 15 Pilots, and 100 mains.

            The fiche lists various size mains as "optional" on the fiche, ranging from 92.5 up to 107.5, I'm assuming to account for elevation at different locations.

            Like I said, I'm just now beginning to piece this info together myself in trying to answer the same question... But that's my understanding so far of the reason for the conflicting info that's out there on what "stock" jetting for the 78 750 was....
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