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  • timebombprod
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    how important is this part?

    how important is part#4? when i first started taking this apart (9 months ago) i found it in my airbox just sitting and i was wondering what the hell is that doing in here, little to know it was supposed to be in one of the rubber tubes. is it a support so the rubber tube doesn't collapse on itself? anything i can make for it instead of ordering one online?
    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • bccap
    Forum LongTimer
    Past Site Supporter
    • May 2011
    • 27260
    • Vancouver B.C.

    #2
    Very important,,,, That's an o-ring.... Without it you will have air leaks and likely a hanging idle ......

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    • timebombprod
      Forum Sage
      • Nov 2019
      • 1666
      • spring hill florida

      #3
      any chance theyd sell these at a hardware store, its the piece you put inside the rubber tube that holds its stability, sorry i keep calling it rubber tube im not sure about the correct term.
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • timebombprod
        Forum Sage
        • Nov 2019
        • 1666
        • spring hill florida

        #4
        just trying to save time everythings been going pretty well so aslong as one of the two shims i got for my no clearance valve is right ill be set to ride. but ofcourse if i have to order i have to, cant skip out on something now!
        Ian

        1982 GS650GLZ
        1982 XS650

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        • bccap
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          • May 2011
          • 27260
          • Vancouver B.C.

          #5
          No.... We have a member here who provides this stuff.... Here is a link and an explanation of what it does ......

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          • timebombprod
            Forum Sage
            • Nov 2019
            • 1666
            • spring hill florida

            #6
            no not that part i put all new intake o-rings, im talking bout the brass piece. its called a hose ring i just found out.

            i believe its brass atleast, dont know metals off my hand like that.
            Ian

            1982 GS650GLZ
            1982 XS650

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            • Redman
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              • Mar 2004
              • 13717
              • Michigan, west Michigan

              #7
              Originally posted by bccap
              No.... We have a member here who provides this stuff.... Here is a link and an explanation of what it does ......
              http://www.cycleorings.com/intake.html
              No.

              Cycle Oring supplys the rubber oring in the intake boot (up against the head).
              THe item in question is the metal spring thing in the boot in the airbox. I suppose is something of an circular thing, something of a ring, but isnt an "o-ring".
              http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
              Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
              GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


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              • timebombprod
                Forum Sage
                • Nov 2019
                • 1666
                • spring hill florida

                #8
                Originally posted by Redman
                No.

                Cycle Oring supplys the rubber oring in the intake boot (up against the head).
                THe item in question is the metal spring thing in the boot in the airbox. I suppose is something of an circular thing, something of a ring, but isnt an "o-ring".

                yes its a metal ring that isnt fully sealed so you can fit it in the boot that are mounted on your airrbox, once put in the right spot it expands giving the boot stability, but my question is howmuch and say if i left it off of boot 1 or 4 howmuch would it affect things?
                Ian

                1982 GS650GLZ
                1982 XS650

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                • Redman
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 13717
                  • Michigan, west Michigan

                  #9
                  Originally posted by timebombprod
                  ............. ..... is it a support so the rubber tube doesn't collapse on itself? . . . . . . .,
                  .
                  Yes.

                  Maybe quickest source might be someone on ebay selling an airbox that has the boots yet. Could be any beat up rotted out one, the metal spring things should be good yet. Only concern would be if proper diameter for the 650 (which I cant tell you what) (but I think the 650s are some what unique to all the other GSes)
                  http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
                  Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
                  GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


                  https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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                  • tom203
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                    • Aug 2010
                    • 8925
                    • Norway,Maine

                    #10
                    Partsoutlaw.. $5 each


                    https://www.partsoutlaw.com/oemparts...73/air-cleaner
                    1981 gs650L

                    "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                    • Kiwi Canuck
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1750
                      • Langley, BC

                      #11
                      My thoughts on those are they are needed, but the bike would probably run OK without them if your carb rack fits nicely.
                      If the airbox pulls on the carbs when tightened up it could pull the boots out of place and cause an air leak.
                      They are not that expensive so why not buy from Suzuki?

                      Making your own would be a big time investment unless you got lucky and found the correct diameter tubing and you would probably damage your rubber boots trying to install them.

                      BTW They are made from steel not brass, they are zinc plated with a yellow chromate.

                      David
                      2018 Honda Africa Twin AS
                      2013 DR 650 Grey, sold 1981 GS 650E Silver,

                      1980 GS1000ST Blue & White, X2

                      2012 DL650 Vstrom Foxy Orange, in storage
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                      1982 BMW R100 Africa trip, Stolen - Recovered- Sold
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                      • timebombprod
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                        • Nov 2019
                        • 1666
                        • spring hill florida

                        #12
                        gonna order for-sure, wasnt trying to save money i guess just rushing putting it back together, but i dont like the sound of the bike running OK, thats not good enough.
                        Ian

                        1982 GS650GLZ
                        1982 XS650

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                        • Wingsconsin
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1725
                          • Sussex Wisconsin

                          #13
                          Watch this video for some insight


                          Sorry -- the sound is really poor --
                          But you may get the idea

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                          • Steve
                            GS Whisperer
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 35924
                            • southwest oHIo

                            #14
                            If your intake tubes are old, they are likely a bit shrunken and hard. In their shrunken state, they can get pushed into, or pulled out of, the airbox when trying to mount the airbox to the carbs. The metal rings mount inside the tubes to keep them expanded so the groove on the outside of the tube mates with the edge of the airbox.

                            New intake tubes will mate up with the airbox and hold there quite well, leading you to think you might not need the expander rings, but after some time, they weill shrink, too, and will leave a gap. Install the rings.

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