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    #1

    Tip on installing carburetor with stock airbox

    One of most frustrating experiences in dealing with my GS1100E/ES is re-installing carburetors with stock airbox.
    The main problem is, there is not an enough space to fit airbox, carburetors and boots.
    In order to fit them, I need to deform rubber boots with great deal of elbow grease and muscle.

    So on my latest project, I inspected space between the frame and the airbox very carefully.
    As usual, the airbox hits the frame as it pushes back. But imperceptibly, the airbox also can hits battery box under certain orientation. Under further inspection, the rear brake hose near master cylinder can also hit the airbox.
    By loosening the battery box and the rear master brake cylinder, I was able to open the space by at least ??!
    As a result, I was able to re-install the carburetors in a breeze.

    Here are additional tips.
    1. install hoses (fuel, overflow) ahead
    2. attach throttle (and choke) cable ahead
    3. Install airbox, carburetors onto airbox, and four rubber boots (and aforementioned, loosen battery box and rear master cylinder)
    4. Slide/push #4 carburetor onto #4 boot in an angle so that carburetors contact mostly #4 boot (instead of all four carburetors contacting all four boots at a same time). Spray soap water to ease sliding carburetor to boot.
    5. Once #4 carburetor mates to #4 boot, tighten the clamps
    6. Using #1 carburetor as a leverage and #4 carburetor/boot as a fulcrum, slide #3 carburetor onto #3 boot, and so on to #2 and #1.

    Hopefully, the tips will be helpful for someone in a future.
  • Rob S.
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    • Dec 2013
    • 9387
    • New York City

    #2
    1983 ED, I presume?

    I have a tip, also. Get pods.
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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    • tom203
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      • Aug 2010
      • 8925
      • Norway,Maine

      #3
      Good tips, thanks. Bunch of guys will need to absorb this. Yes, 1/4 inch is a big deal on lots of bikes.
      1981 gs650L

      "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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      • LAB3
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        • Mar 2018
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        #4
        Originally posted by ls428
        One of most frustrating experiences in dealing with my GS1100E/ES is re-installing carburetors with stock airbox.
        The main problem is, there is not an enough space to fit airbox, carburetors and boots.
        In order to fit them, I need to deform rubber boots with great deal of elbow grease and muscle.

        So on my latest project, I inspected space between the frame and the airbox very carefully.
        As usual, the airbox hits the frame as it pushes back. But imperceptibly, the airbox also can hits battery box under certain orientation. Under further inspection, the rear brake hose near master cylinder can also hit the airbox.
        By loosening the battery box and the rear master brake cylinder, I was able to open the space by at least ??!
        As a result, I was able to re-install the carburetors in a breeze.

        Here are additional tips.
        1. install hoses (fuel, overflow) ahead
        2. attach throttle (and choke) cable ahead
        3. Install airbox, carburetors onto airbox, and four rubber boots (and aforementioned, loosen battery box and rear master cylinder)
        4. Slide/push #4 carburetor onto #4 boot in an angle so that carburetors contact mostly #4 boot (instead of all four carburetors contacting all four boots at a same time). Spray soap water to ease sliding carburetor to boot.
        5. Once #4 carburetor mates to #4 boot, tighten the clamps
        6. Using #1 carburetor as a leverage and #4 carburetor/boot as a fulcrum, slide #3 carburetor onto #3 boot, and so on to #2 and #1.

        Hopefully, the tips will be helpful for someone in a future.
        Step by step instructions are always good!

        Originally posted by Rob S.
        I have a tip, also. Get pods.
        Why eliminate one problem by creating four more?
        2001 Kawasaki Voyager XII (Current bike)
        1982 GS450txz (former bike)

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        • Rob S.
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          • Dec 2013
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          • New York City

          #5
          Originally posted by LAB3
          Why eliminate one problem by creating four more?
          What, you don't have a Dyno strapped to the back of that twin?

          I'm guessing you've never tried to access the battery on an '82/'83 11E. Hint: it requires a Dremel with a cutting wheel.
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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          • closetbiker

            #6
            I snagged an 83 GS750 ES in boxes so don't know how the airbox came out. It certainly isn't obvious how to get it back in. There's nothing in the service manual. Assembled it doesn't seem to fit and in halves there isn't enough room to then reassemble it. Any tips on how this is done? Pods are the lazy man's way...I won't go there.
            Last edited by Guest; 08-17-2020, 10:50 AM.

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            • cowboyup3371
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              • Apr 2010
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              #7
              Welcome Closetbiker, I cannot speak for that bike but I would suggest starting your own thread so your question doesn't get lost in this one.

              Please add your bike information to your signature block though so you won't have to repeat the information every time you turn around
              Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

              1981 GS550T - My First
              1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
              2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

              Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
              Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
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              • wymple
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                • Apr 2014
                • 1893
                • SE Iowa

                #8
                "I'm guessing you've never tried to access the battery on an '82/'83 11E. Hint: it requires a Dremel with a cutting wheel."

                I have. Nearly a blowtorch experience, IMO.

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                • WilliamGLX81

                  #9
                  What is the advise about lubricating the boots with something like silicone brake pin grease? I have a gs650, and the carbs are a huge pain to get in and out. You have to disconnect the cables and remove their guides to even fit them out the side. My boots onto the head are new, and the older ones in the airbox are very flexible.

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