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    Need help to ID a set of carbs.

    This is going to be interesting. I'm still working on getting a hosting site up and running, and Photo*ucket isn't playing nicely, so I can't post any pictures here.
    If anyone is interested after seeing the description, send your e-mail address or phone number and I'll send some pictures.

    This is a set of four Mikuni carbs. They are CV-style carbs, but are NOT the BS series from a GS.

    1. First off, the slide is not round, it is flat. About 10mm thick, but flat.

    2. The outlet tubes are a nominal 34mm. My quick measurement said 33.86, so I'll call them 34.

    3. The "gang rails" are short, and only attached to carbs 2 and 3. Carb #1 is physically bolted to carb #2 and carb #4 is physically bolted to carb #3.

    4. The float bowls are about half as high as the BS bowls.

    5. Each float bowl has a nipple near the drain screw. I have not removed the bowl to see if that might be part of an overflow or simply a neat, tidy way to have a drain hose.

    6. The spacing is the same as the 750 through 1100 8-valve GS engines.

    7. The "choke" is a pull knob on the left side that operates plungers similar to the BS carbs.

    8. The idle screw is vertical, up between the two center carbs.

    9. The throttle cable anchors to a threaded boss on top of carb #3 and pulls up from the middle of the carb bank (the BS carbs pull more toward the front), meaning that the butterflies rotate the opposite direction.

    10. Vacuum port for the petcock comes from #3 carb.

    11. Vent ports are on #2 and #3, then use a short rubber hose to go to their outboard mates, much like the VM carbs.

    12. The fuel inlet is part of #3, then rubber hoses connect the other carbs.

    I have not yet opened them up to see what jetting is in there, that might give a clue to what size bike they are for.



    If anyone has any ideas or any interest in them, let me know.

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    Last edited by Steve; 12-09-2020, 11:57 PM.
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    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
    Family Portrait
    Siblings and Spouses
    Mom's first ride
    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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    #2
    Need photos.

    KZ bikes use a pull knob choke. They don't use two piece gang bars though.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

    Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

    Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

    KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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      #3
      Steve, send them to me and I’ll post them using my Flickr account
      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

      1981 GS550T - My First
      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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        #4
        Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View Post
        Steve, send them to me and I’ll post them using my Flickr account
        I am going to re-take them, along with numbers that correspond with the points noted above.

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        sigpic
        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
        Family Portrait
        Siblings and Spouses
        Mom's first ride
        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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          #5
          I know yamaha used the carbs, and they always had some quirky thing going on. Maybe something from the late 70s? Learned today how old Kawasaki triples had 3 separate carbs and not attached on a fuel rail so it could be an in between point of that and the more sophisticated fuel rail design?
          Ian

          1982 GS650GLZ
          1982 XS650

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            #6
            Originally posted by cowboyup3371 View Post
            Steve, send them to me and I’ll post them using my Flickr account
            Pictures are sent.

            .
            sigpic
            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              #7
              Steve sent me the pictures he took so I'm going to try and insert each one in line with his numbers here. Hopefully someone can help answer his questions.

              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              This is going to be interesting.
              If anyone is interested after seeing the description, send your e-mail address or phone number and I'll send some pictures.

              This is a set of four Mikuni carbs. They are CV-style carbs, but are NOT the BS series from a GS.

              1. First off, the slide is not round, it is flat. About 10mm thick, but flat.

              IMG_5616 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              2. The outlet tubes are a nominal 34mm. My quick measurement said 33.86, so I'll call them 34.

              IMG_5617 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              3. The "gang rails" are short, and only attached to carbs 2 and 3. Carb #1 is physically bolted to carb #2 and carb #4 is physically bolted to carb #3.

              IMG_5618 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              IMG_5619 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              IMG_5620 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              4. The float bowls are about half as high as the BS bowls.

              IMG_5621 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              5. Each float bowl has a nipple near the drain screw. I have not removed the bowl to see if that might be part of an overflow or simply a neat, tidy way to have a drain hose.

              IMG_5622 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              6. The spacing is the same as the 750 through 1100 8-valve GS engines.

              IMG_5623 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              7. The "choke" is a pull knob on the left side that operates plungers similar to the BS carbs.

              IMG_5624 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

              8. The idle screw is vertical, up between the two center carbs.

              IMG_5625 by Scott Baker, on Flickr



              .
              Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

              1981 GS550T - My First
              1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
              2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

              Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
              Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
              and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                #8
                Continuation with a correction to picture 9B

                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                8. The idle screw is vertical, up between the two center carbs.

                IMG_5626 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                9. The throttle cable anchors to a threaded boss on top of carb #3 and pulls up from the middle of the carb bank (the BS carbs pull more toward the front), meaning that the butterflies rotate the opposite direction.

                IMG_5627 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                IMG_5628 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                10. Vacuum port for the petcock comes from #3 carb.

                IMG_5629 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                11. Vent ports are on #2 and #3, then use a short rubber hose to go to their outboard mates, much like the VM carbs.

                IMG_5630 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                IMG_5631 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                12. The fuel inlet is part of #3, then rubber hoses connect the other carbs.

                IMG_5632 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                IMG_5633 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                IMG_5634 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                IMG_5635 by Scott Baker, on Flickr



                I have not yet opened them up to see what jetting is in there, that might give a clue to what size bike they are for.



                If anyone has any ideas or any interest in them, let me know.

                .
                Last edited by cowboyup3371; 12-11-2020, 08:57 AM.
                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                1981 GS550T - My First
                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                  #9
                  And the last set

                  IMG_5636 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5637 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5638 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5639 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5640 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5641 by Scott Baker, on Flickr

                  IMG_5642 by Scott Baker, on Flickr
                  Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                  1981 GS550T - My First
                  1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                  2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                  Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                  Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                  and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                    #10
                    Thanks, Scott, great job.

                    Just one small glitch.
                    There are two 9A and no 9B.

                    .
                    sigpic
                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      Corrected; sorry, the copy/paste went wrong with my urls.
                      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                      1981 GS550T - My First
                      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                        #12
                        I just Googled Mikuni carb identification pictures, & found pictures of these carbs. But I could never find the right button to push to pull up any info. on them. Dang I wish I knew more about computers.
                        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rphillips View Post
                          I just Googled Mikuni carb identification pictures, & found pictures of these carbs. But I could never find the right button to push to pull up any info. on them. Dang I wish I knew more about computers.

                          I could possibly help? If you found it on Google images go to the site that image was originally posted, maybe that'll bring up the bike?
                          Ian

                          1982 GS650GLZ
                          1982 XS650

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                            #14
                            HI, those carbs look very much like BST34SS, they were used on around 88-92 Suzuki gsx1100F Katana among other bikes. I have the 36's on my gixer and they look the same.
                            1983 gs1100ed restro-mod. 1998 gsxr 1100 almost mint, 2019 kawasaki klx250, 2011 Beta 250 evo trials bike, 2017 Montesa 300rr trials bike, 2021 honda crf250rx woods weapon

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                              #15
                              I did a little bit of looking around the images, too and found a reference to "oil-cooled Suzuki 750 and 1100", as well as some Kawasakis.

                              Does anybody feel they need them more than I do?

                              .
                              sigpic
                              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                              Family Portrait
                              Siblings and Spouses
                              Mom's first ride
                              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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