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  • 93Bandit
    Forum Mentor
    • Nov 2018
    • 839
    • Mundy Twp, Michigan

    #1

    CV & VM O-ring Sources

    Since cycle-o-rings is no longer up I'm looking for other sources for these O-rings. The O-ring Store ( https://www.theoringstore.com/store/ ) and McMaster Carr have most of the O-rings needed except for the 3.8mm x 1.25mm (VM Carb - part B in Roberts image).

    I found a couple websites selling that size, but one requires a membership to order (unsure what that entails). The other website is asking $9.81 each for that size. So that'd be $39.24 for just those 4 o-rings, plus the cost of the rest of the orings.

    Is anyone aware of somewhere else we could get this o-ring more affordably? If I have to pay nearly $10 each for that one size of o-ring I will, but I'd rather not...
    EDIT: OR, can we use a slightly different size? The O-ring Store has 3.5mm x 1.20mm orings. They're slightly smaller in cross section and ID, but I suspect the slightly smaller ID might not be too much of an issues since the orings stretch? But I'm concerned about the cross section being too small. The closest size larger I fear would be too large. What do you guys think?

    Also, can anyone tell me what size o-ring is needed for the intakes on a 1977 GS750 and a 1983 GS850? Roberts post lists five sizes (28, 30, 32, 38, 40mm), but I'm not sure which ones I need for my application? I've searched the forum but most threads just told people to go to cycle orings to find out what they needed so that's not much help anymore since the site is down.
    Last edited by 93Bandit; 12-09-2021, 08:44 PM. Reason: ADDITIONAL INFO
    - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
    - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten
  • Nessism
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    #2
    What is the application for those O-rings (VM Carb - part B)? I buy O-rings in bulk and can check fitment.

    Edit: seems to be the pilot fuel screw. I'll let you know tomorrow.
    Last edited by Nessism; 12-09-2021, 09:07 PM.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

    Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

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    • 93Bandit
      Forum Mentor
      • Nov 2018
      • 839
      • Mundy Twp, Michigan

      #3
      Originally posted by Nessism
      What is the application for those O-rings (VM Carb - part B)? I buy O-rings in bulk and can check fitment.

      Edit: seems to be the pilot fuel screw. I'll let you know tomorrow.

      Thank you, good Sir!
      - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
      - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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      • chuck hahn
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        • May 2009
        • 25917
        • Norman, Oklahoma

        #4
        There was chirping about someone possibly taking over cycleorings...... whatever became of this???
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        • 93Bandit
          Forum Mentor
          • Nov 2018
          • 839
          • Mundy Twp, Michigan

          #5
          Originally posted by chuck hahn
          There was chirping about someone possibly taking over cycleorings...... whatever became of this???
          I contacted him as soon as I found out what was going on, requesting information about taking over. Never heard back, but I understand he's preoccupied and may have been contacted by others for the same reason.
          - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
          - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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          • sacruickshank
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            • Dec 2016
            • 333
            • Asheville

            #6
            Originally posted by Nessism
            What is the application for those O-rings (VM Carb - part B)? I buy O-rings in bulk and can check fitment.
            FYI buying in bulk may see some delays these days. Grainger quoted Feb for delivery of some I need and the O-ring store mentions similar supply chain delays.
            Current rides: GS850G, GL1100, Triumph Scrambler XC, Guzzi V85TT, Kawi Z900RS

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            • zed1015
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              • Oct 2020
              • 411
              • North Lincolnshire - UK .

              #7
              Plenty on ebay here in the UK.
              I've used these VM kits which include new fuel mix screws too.
              Check out his other items for CV's etc.
              Suzuki GS 550 750 850 1000 series Carburetor o ring kit Mikuni VM repair kit | eBay
              Postage to US should be around $14 for large letter if he charges at cost..
              Mikuni Viton Choke Plunger Seat Renewal.
              VITON Choke plunger seals .KAWASAKI Z1,Z900,Z650,Z1000,Z1R,SUZUKI GS1000,GSXR,RF | eBay

              Air Corrector Jets for Mikuni VM 24, 26 and 28mm carbs .
              https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254380193...84.m1555.l2649



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              • 93Bandit
                Forum Mentor
                • Nov 2018
                • 839
                • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                #8
                Originally posted by zed1015
                Plenty on ebay here in the UK.
                I've used these VM kits which include new fuel mix screws too.
                Check out his other items for CV's etc.
                Suzuki GS 550 750 850 1000 series Carburetor o ring kit Mikuni VM repair kit | eBay
                Postage to US should be around $14 for large letter if he charges at cost..
                Oh wow... I must not be very good at searching. Thank you Sir.

                I searched for that kit in the US ebay and found these kits sold in the USA:
                VM https://www.ebay.com/itm/29341695323...4AAOSwlPFeGEEp
                CV https://www.ebay.com/itm/35292769099...oAAOSwhQpeGECc

                Has anyone purchased from this seller in the US?
                - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                • sacruickshank
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                  • Dec 2016
                  • 333
                  • Asheville

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 93Bandit
                  Oh wow... I must not be very good at searching. Thank you Sir.

                  I searched for that kit in the US ebay and found these kits sold in the USA:
                  VM https://www.ebay.com/itm/29341695323...4AAOSwlPFeGEEp
                  CV https://www.ebay.com/itm/35292769099...oAAOSwhQpeGECc

                  Has anyone purchased from this seller in the US?
                  I just did. $25 for the carb & intake orings. Will report back once they arrive.
                  Current rides: GS850G, GL1100, Triumph Scrambler XC, Guzzi V85TT, Kawi Z900RS

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                  • 93Bandit
                    Forum Mentor
                    • Nov 2018
                    • 839
                    • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sacruickshank
                    I just did. $25 for the carb & intake orings. Will report back once they arrive.
                    I messaged the seller asking for material and hardness. I will report back with what he says. If he doesn't reply, I may end up ordering them myself as well...
                    - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                    - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                    • sacruickshank
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                      • Dec 2016
                      • 333
                      • Asheville

                      #11
                      Some of his descriptions were incomplete. For example, the intake orings are listed for the GS550, but not the GS650 even though partzilla shows the same part number used for both models.

                      I didn't get into material or hardness, just take my chances.
                      Current rides: GS850G, GL1100, Triumph Scrambler XC, Guzzi V85TT, Kawi Z900RS

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                      • Nessism
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                        • Mar 2006
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                        • Torrance, CA

                        #12
                        That retro motorcycle store seems like the obvious choice now that Robert is finished. If the O-rings fit that is.

                        FYI, when fitting O-rings we want a little stretch when installing on the part. About .3-.5mm for something like a pilot screw, and moving up to maybe .6-1mm on a fuel Tee. Similarlly, after the O-ring is installed, if you measure the OD of the installed O-ring and the ID of the hole, you want a similar amount of compression. Nitrile (Buna N) is the proper material. It swells a little when gas hits it and affects a tight seal.
                        Last edited by Nessism; 12-10-2021, 02:51 PM.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

                        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                        • 93Bandit
                          Forum Mentor
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 839
                          • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                          #13
                          I went ahead and ordered a VM kit and CV kit. Will let you guys know what I think of them. I'll try to take some of those measurements, Nessism, if I can remember to do it. I hope to get both sets of carbs rebuilt after the holidays.
                          - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                          - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                          • Grimly
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nessism
                            Nitrile (Buna N) is the proper material. It swells a little when gas hits it and affects a tight seal.
                            Hah. First time I came across that particular property was the large flat o-ring of a fuel sender on a car tank. It got wet with petrol, swelled like a pig and I thought it was knackered. Next day it was back to normal size, so I fitted it very carefully.
                            Dave
                            '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
                            Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                            • Nessism
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Grimly
                              Hah. First time I came across that particular property was the large flat o-ring of a fuel sender on a car tank. It got wet with petrol, swelled like a pig and I thought it was knackered. Next day it was back to normal size, so I fitted it very carefully.
                              I experienced the same problem, but put the O-ring in a warm oven to drive out the gas and shrink it back to size.
                              Ed

                              To measure is to know.

                              Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                              Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                              Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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