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    Lithium-Ion batteries, rules, myth's, facts not fake news.

    I will have 3 bikes that can all use the same size standard battery. They all will need a battery eventually. They are not everyday drivers but not garage queens either. I would like to buy 1 battery and swap it when necessary. 2 of the bikes, weight is no issue. 1 bike, I'm trying to shave as much weight as easily as possible without going exotic.Trying to find an answer from a member not a retailer trying to sell me something. Staying with a conventual type battery is fine too, but if the Lithium-Ion saves me more grief than it causes, now is the time to change.

    I've read way to much and every answer seems different. Bottomline...Can a good quality (please state brand name) Lithium-Ion battery be used in Suzuki GS series bike that has a updated SH775 Reg/Rectifier/Triumph harness or to I need a Reg/Rectifier specifically for a Lithium-Ion battery?

    Battery chargers. Same problem, same half dozen different answers. The answer I liked is probably wrong knowing my luck. It stated, leave the battery alone, no trickle charging like a conventional battery. When you need it and it's been sitting for a period of time, charge it with a conventional trickle charger for about an hour or so. Does one need a Lithium-ion only charger? Or is there a SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) ? Thank you for your efforts!
    Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
    Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
    Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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    I never figured out how to ride both my bikes at the same time, but I surely started them together. (I have 4 guitars, and they each have their own strings. )

    I never thought of battery sharing, but with it being virtually unremovable in the 11EZ, that wouldn't have worked. I would think moving an old style hunk of lead would get old very fast, so I agree with looking into the new lightweight technology.
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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      #3
      Not unremovable Rob, just that it takes a day or so.
      1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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        #4
        A lithium ion battery should have a battery management system that is a charge controller built in to make sure the cells stay balanced and you don't overcharge or over-deplete it. Depending on that controller, you should be able to just put a voltage on it and it'll charge. A stupid charge controller might not know how to limit input current, so it's going to depend on the battery pack how you should charge it. Anything sold for a bike should be able to take whatever the a stock charging system would throw at it, but this is just me discussing theory acquired from other arenas that use these modern rechargeable. I don't have a recommendation. I've been considering using one of these too, mainly for the longevity. I'll probably just grab another AGM this winter because of the cost.

        This seems comprehensive...https://www.motorcycle.com/products/...s-vs-realities

        I was sort of wondering if there might be a way to use one of my mower's batteries... Maybe:https://www.instructables.com/Get-12...es-Great-for-/
        Last edited by Dogma; 11-14-2023, 07:07 PM.
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          #5
          Originally posted by rphillips View Post
          Not unremovable Rob, just that it takes a day or so.
          Exactly. And three arms & hands if the seat key returns to lock when you take your hand off it.
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            #6
            I am using a lithium ion battery on my bike for the last 3 years and i have a Ricks lithium ion spesific R/R installed on it. No problems whatsoever super light battery compared to conventional ones and very strong also. Oh the brand is Skyrich btw
            GS674 Hybrid -1965 Vespa 90 -1958 BMW R26

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              #7
              What about winter non-use period? Don't care about colder cranking amps going severely down in winter cause I don't ride my old stuff below 50 degrees. can they stay outside(garaged) in -10F. Sounds like a normal charger will work, but don't leave it on all the time as I do now. Almost sounds like just stick with AGM. I can get good prices from a friend who works in a dealership any way.
              Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
              Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
              Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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