Can I replace the AGM battery with a Gel? The charging voltage on my bike is 14.5V to 15V. Thanks in advance.
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Weather lead acid (also called conventual or wet cell), AGM, Gel cell, or the new Lithium-ion, all would be fine.1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100 -
1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.Comment
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I prefer AGM over Gel from personal experience. They are hardier. Li-ion is the least hardy of all of them so far in my experience. I think when the actual storage capacity nears that of an AGM (like the REALLY expensive big ones from Antigravity) for a reasonable price then it will be the way forward. Right now compactness & weight are the only reasons to have one..
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1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
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Rob, about normal around here, terrible ice storm end of Jan. beautiful spring weather end of Feb. Personally I've had no problems... When I see that stuff from up your way on national news, Hoping everybody is getting along O.K.1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100Comment
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Don't some Lithium-ion mc batteries (placed in 80's motorcycles) perhaps, potentially, possibly encounter slight incompatibility issues with the original 80's charging system?I prefer AGM over Gel from personal experience. They are hardier. Li-ion is the least hardy of all of them so far in my experience. I think when the actual storage capacity nears that of an AGM (like the REALLY expensive big ones from Antigravity) for a reasonable price then it will be the way forward. Right now compactness & weight are the only reasons to have one..1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.Comment
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Lithium batteries have a higher charge threshold.
If you throw 13.3v at a lead acid battery it will eventually charge, a lithium battery needs a jolt of about 15v to start to charge, then you drop the voltage. If you use a regular lead acid charger it will never charge as it will never reach that threshold..
A AGM battery is "absorbent glass matt". It has a gauze that absorbs the acid.
A GEL battery has acid in a gel.
Both act like a regular lead acid battery, the gel and matt are to make less maintenance required (the acid doesn't evaporate as easily) but are the same technology
... so if you want to use a lithium battery you should replace the regulator to one that is compatible with lithium. The stator will charge it, it just need the higher threshold.
The battery that is easiest to keep going is an old lead acid with caps... so you can top up the electrolyte (We spend a lot of time and money on "maintenance free")Comment
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1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.Comment
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"The battery that is easiest to keep going is an old lead acid with caps... so you can top up the electrolyte (We spend a lot of time and money on "maintenance free")"
That's easier than installing an AGM and never having to touch it? I'm obviously confused? Or does "maintenance free" have a new meaning?
Ron
78 GS1000E, 79 GS850G, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660Comment
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I don’t get it either Ron, I haven’t had a sealed AGM battery drip any fluid on anything, like the old type with caps that you have to fill with electrolyte.Comment
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Thank goodness for the "AGM's", For me, adding any water to any motorcycle batt is always an aggravation , especially when you got a GS you got to remove the seat, tank, and air box just to see the battery. No more "old lead acid batteries with caps" for me. AGM's for me till they come up with something better at a reasonable price.1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100Comment
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1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.Comment
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Thanks for the reminder, fellas. Need to check the battery in my sports car.
Original 9 year old battery that requires maintenance.
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'83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUBComment
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