Has anyone done the Ignition relay mod with a Honda R/R?

[Guest]

Has anyone implemented the ignition relay mod: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=166387
with a Honda R/R? When I put the relay inline, the R/R will not charge. Leaving everything else alone, when I remove the relay from the circuit it charges. I have tried moving both the sense wire and the R/R output wire all around, and still no go. This is quite puzzling. The relay has a drawing of the internal cicuit, and there is no diode inside. The Bosch-style relay can go either way, with or without a diode. I also tried a different brand of relay with exactly the same results.

[Steve]

Yes, I have done what I think you are asking about, sort of.

I have a relay that powers a terminal strip to which most of the accessories are attached, including the sense wire for the R/R.

However, the R/R in question is not a standard Honda unit, it is one of the FET units. Seems to work well enough.

Toss a schematic in my e-mail, I'll look it over for you.

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[koolaid_kid]

I have the Duaneage Honda R/R.
And yes, my design powers lots o'stuff, including the sense wire and the fuse box. But even if I move the sense wire before the relay, it still will not work. If I had any hair I would be pulling it out right about now.

The design is in the document you are reviewing for me. Which you forgot to attach last night, BTW.

[koolaid_kid]

Nevermind. User error.

[cowboyup3371]

Nevermind. User error.

When you say that, what exactly do you mean? Just so I don't make the same mistake this weekend when I plug my stuff back up.

[koolaid_kid]

You would have to ask. When I laid out the design (it uses 2 relays and 2 terminal strips, it is a hybrid design that I will post shortly) I used a makeshift breadboard. I got it all working perfectly, so I then moved everything over to the final resting place (on the side of my battery box). Apparently I switched 2 wires, so it no longer worked.
The key here, I think, is to not work on the bike until midnight. You get tired and you make mistakes.

[bluewool]

. Apparently I switched 2 wires, so it no longer worked.
The key here, I think, is to not work on the bike until midnight. You get tired and you make mistakes.

All is well if there was no smoke or flame. It takes a lot of practice to work on stuff that late, and is seldom worth the aggravation. It's sure hard to stop though. Probably 75% of my service calls were operator or installation error, so I wouldn't feel too bad. I look forward to seeing the schematic when you post it.

[koolaid_kid]

All is well if there was no smoke or flame. It takes a lot of practice to work on stuff that late, and is seldom worth the aggravation. It's sure hard to stop though. Probably 75% of my service calls were operator or installation error, so I wouldn't feel too bad. I look forward to seeing the schematic when you post it.

Thanks. I can usually tell when it is time to stop; I usually catch myself starting to make mistakes. But it has been so long since I have ridden, and I have other projects to complete also. Plus it gave me the opportunity to run the wires again, I was not totally pleased with the first attempt. Alls well that ends well, I guess.

The design is a full-fledged writeup; pics, explanations, layout, parts list, tools list, etc. It is almost complete. Steve and I have been collaborating on it. All I can say now is to hold off on any relay mods you are thinking of doing until you read and absorb it.

[850 Combat]

You get tired and you make mistakes.

Why wait? I can make mistakes any time.

[koolaid_kid]

Why wait? I can make mistakes any time.

Oddly enough, my boss tells me the same thing about me.

[posplayr]

You would have to ask. When I laid out the design (it uses 2 relays and 2 terminal strips, it is a hybrid design that I will post shortly) I used a makeshift breadboard. I got it all working perfectly, so I then moved everything over to the final resting place (on the side of my battery box). Apparently I switched 2 wires, so it no longer worked.
The key here, I think, is to not work on the bike until midnight. You get tired and you make mistakes.

It is well known that all work in the lab goes to $hit at 11:00 pm. It happily returns to normal about 5:00 am after most of the hair is gone.

[koolaid_kid]

Yeah, I should have stopped at beer thirty. I actually did that today, and I am much happier for it.