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  • chuck hahn
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    82 1100 GL plug melted

    I have a problem..the plug that has the right hand switch plugs into the wiring harness has melted. I tried to look at the wiring diagram on Cliffs website but even with my glasses its kinda blurry to read. If anyone has a better clearer diagram or cann tell me what colors go to which i would be most grateful. I am assuming that the rectfier/reg had lost ground at some point and it melted the plug.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.
  • Matchless

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    Chuck try this link:

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    • chuck hahn
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      #3
      I tried to follow the diagram. I am not very good at reading wiring. So i will just forget it. I think that maybe it wopuld be best to just get the plung and patch it in.. i just cant get it to do anything.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      • tom203
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        • Norway,Maine

        #4
        Originally posted by chuck hahn
        I tried to follow the diagram. I am not very good at reading wiring. So i will just forget it. I think that maybe it wopuld be best to just get the plung and patch it in.. i just cant get it to do anything.
        Well, you have to determine what went wrong, so you can't forget it or the wind will be still! Is this melted plug under tank or in headlight bucket?
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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        • chuck hahn
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          #5
          Tom..here the story from the start. I got the bike running really well but had no charging voltage. I took my meter and had 74 volts across all three stator legs..good stator. So i deduced it was a bad reg. I went to the dealership and talked to the head mechanic that i know and he told me to check the white plug down by the right hand coil. He said that when regs go bad and loose the grounds they have a tendency to melt the plug. Well i pulled the tank and sure enough found the fried plug. I also got a new reg. I decided to get new male to female connectors and rewire it that way. There is a wire in there that is a jumper..grey loop. I got it all messed up and cant figure out whats what. Being color blind isnt helping me any either. I would rather buy a plug with both ends in tact and wire that in. I am color blind in shade of colors.
          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          • chuck hahn
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            #6
            The goal here is to get the charging issue solved so i can sell the bike. It is solid and just needs some good cleaning and tires, but i wont sell anything thats not at 100 % functionality.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            • chuck hahn
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              #7
              In the diagram..i am assumingb that IGNITION COIL means the igniton switch that youn put the key in??
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              • tom203
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                • Norway,Maine

                #8
                Originally posted by chuck hahn
                Tom..here the story from the start. I got the bike running really well but had no charging voltage. I took my meter and had 74 volts across all three stator legs..good stator. So i deduced it was a bad reg. I went to the dealership and talked to the head mechanic that i know and he told me to check the white plug down by the right hand coil. He said that when regs go bad and loose the grounds they have a tendency to melt the plug. Well i pulled the tank and sure enough found the fried plug. I also got a new reg. I decided to get new male to female connectors and rewire it that way. There is a wire in there that is a jumper..grey loop. I got it all messed up and cant figure out whats what. Being color blind isnt helping me any either. I would rather buy a plug with both ends in tact and wire that in. I am color blind in shade of colors.
                OK, I grasp the problem of color blindness with wiring. But I think the only part of regulator circuit that goes thru that plug would be related to a stator phase running up and back thru the left hand switch- do you still have this setup or are all three stator phases now going direct to your new R/R?
                1981 gs650L

                "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                • tom203
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuck hahn
                  In the diagram..i am assumingb that IGNITION COIL means the igniton switch that youn put the key in??
                  To me that diagram is pitiful, but ignition coil is not the ignition switch! Hopefully someone with direct knowledge of this bike will chime in shortly.
                  1981 gs650L

                  "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                  • chuck hahn
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                    #10
                    I havent done anything with the new reg..its still in the box. I got one from Rick Electrics. When i found the melted plug, i figured that was the most important thing to correct or i would just be chasing my tail otherwise. I was gonna eliminate the plug and just put male / females in each wire and call it good. I have opened up the switch and cleaned all the contacts for the kill switch and the starter button. I am gonna sell the bike for just what i got in it. I replaced the frayed clutch cable, got the new reg, and got a new..in the box ..oem tank. I got 350.00 into it and it runs. Now this electrical isuue has it dead.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    • chuck hahn
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                      #11
                      Oh..and a side note..I know power is goping thru the kill switch. When the key is on and i flip the switch from run to stop, i can see the lights on the cluster dim and brighten.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      • chuck hahn
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                        #12
                        I am looking at the one on the link that matchless posted..its for an 83 and not an 82 though. The one on cliffs website is of very poor clarity to me.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        • chuck hahn
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                          #13
                          Anyone with this bike, can you take some pics of the white plug thats under the tank that the right handlebar switch plugs into. I can maybe use that as a template to see if i can get the bike sorted out. I think it has a 5 or 6 pin connector there. Should see a blue one there also..i need the white one.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          • 1948man
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                            #14
                            There is an owner's manual you can download at BikeCliff's site. That way you can keep zooming in 'til it is easy to see. There is a legend at the bottom that explains what abbreviations mean as far as color. The ignition switch is in the lower left corner. The same manual seems to cover '82 and '83
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                            • chuck hahn
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                              #15
                              the wiring diagramm at his site suxx. the lore you zoomm the worse it gets.. I am just gonna sellmit asm is and someone willm have a good sound low milage bike.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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