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  • kokar
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    have a look here
    http://www.moto.gr/forums/showthread.php?t=130182 ( photo & video )

    there is not update for the part list....
    part list
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    D1,D11,D21 = 1N4007
    Q11,Q12,Q13,Q21,Q22,Q23 = 2SC1959
    Q01 = 2SK163
    Q14,Q24 = 2SD977 or 2SD1976
    if you find the 2SD1976 Darlington then you have not need to put the zenner Z11 & Z21
    Z11 Z21 = ZY350v /1,3W
    Z01 = ZD4,7/1,3W
    R11, R21 = 1K
    R12, R22 = 3,9K
    R13, R14, R15, R16, R23, R24, R25, R26 = 4,7K
    R18,R28 = 300 ohm
    R19,R29 = 470 ohm
    R17, R27 = 300 ohm 2W
    C01 = 100nF/63v
    C02 = 100μF / 63V/105°
    C11, C21 = 22nF/63V
    C12, C22, C13, C23 = 10nF/63V
    C14, C24 = 150nF/400V

    i am still looking in my lab to find where the schematic and the PCB are
    when i found them i will upload a.s.a.p
    thanks for the comment
    Last edited by Guest; 07-03-2014, 04:18 PM.

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  • mfkty
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    I was wondering if anybody still had the updated parts list and the board mask file, or any of the files. It seem like the hosting site deleted the files. Also this was incredible work. Thanks in advance
    Christian
    Last edited by Guest; 07-03-2014, 11:15 AM.

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  • kokar
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    I can not answer that ....

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  • aznpride75
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    i just read this entire amazing thread and ive gotta say you a genius! But from what ive collected a set up for an 85 gs550 with electronic ignition already on it is harder to do??

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  • cletus@live.se
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    thanks for the answer. turned out they didn't ship to where I live. will continue looking for a 450 replacement.

    Cheers

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  • Robertoisrad
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    Kokar (or anyone else...) do you still have the .lay file for the pcb? The link you originally posted to has expired...

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  • kokar
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    No, i did not mesured the wave form on pickups









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  • posplayr
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    Originally posted by kokar View Post
    the basic difference is the plug connector and the color of the cable
    you must do some homework or take the advice of a professional
    you can also give me a good photo of your igniter and the connector and i try
    to find out your configuration

    my cable-color configuration is the following



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    Hi Kokar,

    Good work on this ignition work.

    I have been looking at designing a computerized electronic ignition, that is as universal as possible. So I was wondering if you knew if the two ignitor inputs for this 550 ignition were bipolar signal relative to ground on each leg.

    The VR pickups seem to be grounded and independent of the each other and use the engine block as a return. The later model igniter pickups for say my GS1100ED is floated from the engine but rather tied to the small pedestal inside of the igniter. The wave form looks something like this.

    Have you measured this on the independent pickups?

    TIA,
    Jim

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  • kokar
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    the parts in post 30 is absolute right
    I run this since 9/2011

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  • Robertoisrad
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    I'm super excited about finding this thread! Every replacement ignitor I've found for my bike is used/untested/expensive... Kokar your work is awesome!

    A couple of questions though. Is the parts list and the schematic still the same as in post #30? There's been a few posts here and there about people swapping in different or better components. If the original still works I'm fine with it!

    Second any advice on where to buy this stuff in the US? I've repaired a few electronics and I've usually ordered from digikey or mouser but I can't find most of the items in the parts list....I'm searching for the part number and not getting any hits. I pretty much don't know what I'm doing though so if someone could help out with that I'd be really grateful.

    Third, any advice on where/how to print out the board in the US?

    Thank you! I'm hoping I can build one before the snow melts so I can finally ride my old bike again!
    Last edited by Guest; 03-06-2014, 02:18 PM.

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  • kokar
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    Originally posted by cletus@live.se View Post
    Sorry for hi-jacking this brilliant thread. Somewhere here it was mentioned that it's suitable för GS450 as well. I don't dare building one myself since +/- is my weakest side in life. I did, though, find a cheap GS550 81 ignitor on the web. Will this fit my GS450 81?

    Cheers
    /Viggo, Umeĺ Sweden


    the basic difference is the plug connector and the color of the cable
    you must do some homework or take the advice of a professional
    you can also give me a good photo of your igniter and the connector and i try
    to find out your configuration

    my cable-color configuration is the following



    i found on the Internet the following wiring diagram



    O/W = Orange / White
    B/Y = Blck / Yellow
    W = White
    B/W = Black / White
    Br = Brown


    so the only difference from mine is the color cable of the pick-up coil




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    Last edited by Guest; 03-03-2014, 04:35 AM.

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  • cletus@live.se
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    Sorry for hi-jacking this brilliant thread. Somewhere here it was mentioned that it's suitable för GS450 as well. I don't dare building one myself since +/- is my weakest side in life. I did, though, find a cheap GS550 81 ignitor on the web. Will this fit my GS450 81?

    Cheers
    /Viggo, Umeĺ Sweden

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  • kokar
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    i run this replica igniter since 2011 with no problem.
    Thank you all guys







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  • Wallowgreen
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    The troublesome baby kat turned out to have a carburetion problem and I was already working on a second set of carbs for it when the chance of this PCB came along.

    So... answer is no, I haven't needed to build this up.... yet. Still have it tucked away for when the need arises!

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  • posplayr
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    Originally posted by kokar View Post
    thanks Chancho196, but I think this is the meaning of this site
    exchange of information helping each other






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    Kokar,
    You have been very generous in your efforts to reverse engineer this ignition reproduce the PCB and even give it out it for free.I'm sure everybody appreciates your effort.
    Jim

    P.S. I was wondering if you know how many people got their PCB stuffed and working. I know Wallowgreen is an EE so he should have no problems if he got around to it.
    Last edited by posplayr; 02-04-2014, 02:29 PM.

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