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  • rustynissan

    #1

    Dyna S ignition issues?

    I own a 1979 GS750LN and I have installed the Dynatek replacement ignition system, Dyna coils, Dyna wires and replaced the resistor plug caps.

    I am having an issue where I lose spark to the same set of plugs. It will usually run fine for a little while when I first start it up, but somewhere between 5-15 minutes of riding and it drops 2 cylinders. I have verified this with a timing light, 2 of the plugs (on the same coil) are not getting spark. I am beginning to think there might be an issue with one of the pickups on the Dyna S ignition system. Any suggestions?
  • BigD_83
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    #2
    Are you aware of the testing procedure for the ignitor/coils?

    Do you have a shop manual?
    '83 GS650G
    '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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    • rustynissan

      #3
      I do have the FSM for this bike, as well as a Clymer guide. I just replaced the coils and it is exhibiting the exact same behavior as when I had only replaced the points with the Dyna S ignition.

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      • BigD_83
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        #4
        So, to back up a bit to understand the background:

        when you were running points and the old coils, you would lose spark on cylinders 2/3 (or 1/4?) after 15 minutes of running?

        Then, you replaced the points with a Dyna S ignition and Dyna Coils (5 ohm?), and you still get no spark on cylinders 2/3 (or 1/4)?

        Did the Dyna S come with an ignitor box as well as the pickups?
        Last edited by BigD_83; 05-31-2012, 02:43 PM.
        '83 GS650G
        '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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        • rustynissan

          #5
          I cannot remember what the bike was doing before I replaced the points with the Dynatek DS3-2 Electronic Ignition (essentially replaces the points with Hall-effect sensors).

          After replacing the points, I was experiencing this behavior of losing two cylinders, so I replaced the ignition coils, plug wires and plug resistor caps. I used the Dynatek DC1-1 coils (3 ohms, as recommended by Dynatek tech support). None of this fixed my issue.

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          • rustynissan

            #6
            Originally posted by BigD_83
            Did the Dyna S come with an ignitor box as well as the pickups?
            No, just the pickups.

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            • posplayr
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              #7
              you should make sure that you have at least 11.5V to the coils. If not them you should probably also do a coil relay mod. Power the entire ignition circuit (coils, dyna) from the relay.

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              • BigD_83
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                #8
                I might have to bow out of this thread and watch for some responses from people with more experience in this area, but the ignitor box could be an issue.
                '83 GS650G
                '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                • rustynissan

                  #9
                  Originally posted by posplayr
                  you should make sure that you have at least 11.5V to the coils. If not them you should probably also do a coil relay mod. Power the entire ignition circuit (coils, dyna) from the relay.
                  I am getting close to a 2V drop at the coils. I am considering doing the relay mod anyways, but wouldn't that affect both coils? Why am I only losing one coil?

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Was the ignition bought new?

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                    • posplayr
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rustynissan
                      I am getting close to a 2V drop at the coils. I am considering doing the relay mod anyways, but wouldn't that affect both coils? Why am I only losing one coil?
                      It is also dropping the voltage to the Dyna.

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                      • rustynissan

                        #12
                        Originally posted by chef1366
                        Was the ignition bought new?
                        Yes, I bought the DS3-2 brand new.
                        Last edited by Guest; 05-31-2012, 03:33 PM. Reason: forgot quote

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                        • rustynissan

                          #13
                          Originally posted by posplayr
                          It is also dropping the voltage to the Dyna.
                          I am still confused why only one set of plugs (2&3, I think) is dropping out. I might try temporarily running a wire directly from the coils to the battery as a way to test this out.

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                          • BigD_83
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by rustynissan
                            I am still confused why only one set of plugs (2&3, I think) is dropping out. I might try temporarily running a wire directly from the coils to the battery as a way to test this out.
                            If that yields no answers, swap the coils around to see if the problem follows
                            '83 GS650G
                            '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                            • sschering

                              #15
                              If it is still the same pickup after the swap call Dynatek 800-928-3962.. I have one that does the same thing.. One pickup fails when it gets hot..

                              If its under warranty they will replace it.. If not they will swap it out for $80
                              Someday I'll get around to sending it in for replacement.

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