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    Noobie Question - Minimum wiring to make 78 GS750E run

    Good day all -
    Last weekend I picked up a 78 750 cafe project. The PO did a bunch of work, with only the wiring left to be completed (story sounded good).
    The harness was completely removed to paint the frame.

    So I have a question about shortest path to hearing it run.
    I am pretty good with 12v wiring once I get past the charging system.

    What is the minimum amount of wiring to make it run?
    Looking for bare bones kickstart solution.
    1. Stator wires to Coil (white/black)
    2. Ignition cutoff switch to coils. (O/W)
    3. Alternator 3 wires (yellow, W/G, W/B) to regulator's 3 yellow wires
    4. Red wire from regulator to battery with fuse (what size?)

    At this point I think I should have spark and battery will charge.

    My reason for doing this temp solution is that I need to hear it run before I put any money into it.

    This is my first "restoration" project, but so far it looks like fun!

    Thanks in advance, as I know this smart group is going to be a wealth of information!

    Cheers - Cory

    #2
    Regulator

    Alternator/Regulator wires

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      #3
      Stator/Coil wires

      Black/white from Stator to coils. Orange/Wht to kill switch.

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        #4
        wire up from stator to reg, then red wire to battery then connect coils to battery, make sure frame is earthed then give her a kick, u can put kill switch in the wire going to coil

        this is just basic wire up to see if she fire

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          #5
          You don't even need the charging system wiring to fire it up. Just the ignition system.

          Get the wiring diagram for your bike and trace out the ignition: points and coils. Pretty simple.
          Ed

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            #6
            Thanks!

            Many thanks, now off to the Fuel forum for hooking up the carbs

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              #7
              Regulator Wire hookup?

              I have another quick question, with 3 yellow wires on the Regulator, does the hookup happen in a specific order? ie. first yellow to White/Gr etc.

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                #8
                Originally posted by tweekin2 View Post
                I have another quick question, with 3 yellow wires on the Regulator, does the hookup happen in a specific order? ie. first yellow to White/Gr etc.
                No particular order, but note that one wire disappears into the harness, then comes back with a different-colored stripe on it.
                Skip that wire, connect all three stator wires directly to the three input wires for the rectifier.


                As Nessism mentioned, though, if you only want to hear it run, just connect the ignition system and kick it to life.

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                  #9
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                    #10
                    Thanks BassCliff

                    I appreciate the welcome pack and have already been reading your information that you so kindly provide...

                    Cheers,
                    Cory

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                      #11
                      Suzuki's charging system wiring has some serious issues. It's strongly advised that you rewire the bike to eliminate the convoluted stator wiring. More specifically, route the stator wires directly into the R/R - do NOT hook it up into the factory harness.

                      Make sure the R/R is grounded to the frame or battery.

                      R/R power output can go straight to the battery with a 15A fuse in line, or you can route though the fuse box after verifying you have a low resistance path.
                      Last edited by Nessism; 06-06-2012, 01:42 PM.
                      Ed

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                        #12
                        It might be advisable to go with more than a 15 amp fuse between VRR and battery (starter relay is a better connection as it avoids much in the way of connection issues). Even my anemic 1970's alternator makes a bit over 20 amps so theoretically could toast the fuse.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Normk View Post
                          It might be advisable to go with more than a 15 amp fuse between VRR and battery (starter relay is a better connection as it avoids much in the way of connection issues). Even my anemic 1970's alternator makes a bit over 20 amps so theoretically could toast the fuse.
                          The largest fuse in the GS fusebox is 15A. Does wiring the charging system direct to the battery change that requirement?
                          Ed

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                            #14
                            appears that there is no spark?

                            Thanks for all of your advise, I hooked up the coils to the black/white wires with 12v + going to O/W coming from a switch. I have verified 12v @ the coils, but when I pull a plug and check for spark I get nothing. I have verified this on both coils. Cyliners 1-4 to one coil, 2-3 to the other. Reviewing electrical diagrams isn't pointing out anything I am missing. Are there tests for the coils I can do?
                            thanks again!
                            Cory

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                              #15
                              Did you wire the points into the circuit?

                              BTW, what kind of exhaust are you putting on that bike of yours. You going to use a baffle of some sort?
                              Ed

                              To measure is to know.

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