spark plugs - are they telling me anything ?

I wondering about this too. Too much fuel is going to cause it to idle higher anyway not die off. At certain throttle positions it could cause it to bog until the excess clears but as the idle dies, you can blip it and it picks up again. That's telling me it needs more gas or possibly less air. That's what made me think it was not jetted sufficiently to compensate for the freer flowing pipe.

Could you make it clearer for us please.

Cheers,
spyug

Actually, you have it backwards, spyug. Think about what the engine does when there is an air leak. It idles higher, not lower. Most likely 2.5 is too rich, which is why I wanted to know about the pilot jets. They have been changed to a larger jet, which I found unusual for just a pipe. Usually with just a pipe you just richen the circuit with the screw, not a jet. But we can work with these, NP.

but it's an air screw, how does that affect fuel ?

but if it's getting too much fuel, how does that cause it to stall out ?

I wondering about this too. Too much fuel is going to cause it to idle higher anyway not die off. At certain throttle positions it could cause it to bog until the excess clears but as the idle dies, you can blip it and it picks up again. That's telling me it needs more gas or possibly less air. That's what made me think it was not jetted sufficiently to compensate for the freer flowing pipe.

Could you make it clearer for us please.

Cheers,
spyug

Your Air to Fuel Ratio (AFR) needs to be correct for all the various modes. I cheat and use a wideband (the scientific method) but GSR members get close enough using manual methods, which sees to be "good enough".

once I have them back in, I will await your instructions on how to proceed

GK, we all LOVE what you have done with that bike and really want to hear of it running around all over the place.

Fingers crossed.

Eric

Thanks,,,,it was running around, until it started dying out on me....

still wanna sell that bike?

GOOD LUCK my man, hope this nails it. someday soon i'm going to actually understand how everything in the carburetor works together. sounds like you're getting some great lessons.

not out of the woods yet...

it still might get a for sale sign.....

lessons are always a good thing, one can never learn too much....

.

[BigD_83]

Thanks...

but it's an air screw, how does that affect fuel ?

Cheers

Aah,

but it is NOT an air screw, at least not like an air pilot. It is an air/fuel mix screw. By adjusting it out, you are dumping a higher volume of FUEL into the combustion chamber.

Your synch is adjusted using the screw/lock nut on your throttle bar, it has nothing to do with what we are going to do. That will be fine, thanks for the offer spyug.

still wanna sell that bike?

GOOD LUCK my man, hope this nails it. someday soon i'm going to actually understand how everything in the carburetor works together. sounds like you're getting some great lessons.

GK, we all LOVE what you have done with that bike and really want to hear of it running around all over the place.

Fingers crossed.

Eric

Your Air to Fuel Ratio (AFR) needs to be correct for all the various modes. I cheat and use a wideband (the scientific method) but GSR members get close enough using manual methods, which sees to be "good enough".

I'll walk you through it, don't worry.

Thanks...

How many times last night did I allude to extra fuel sneaking in when it was not needed?

Eric

but it's an air screw, how does that affect fuel ?

but if it's getting too much fuel, how does that cause it to stall out ?

ahhh never mind, I guess too much fuel not enough air, makes for a bad combination, somehow or another



so I will button everything back up, and post back here once carbs are back in...


Cheers

How many times last night did I allude to extra fuel sneaking in when it was not needed?

Eric

OK....

I can install them back no problem, well it's a pain but I will put them back, going to check the needles first, just to make sure...

should I then use the high idle method once they are back in ?

.

I'll walk you through it, don't worry.

Hold on!
That might be the cause of it loading up at stop lights.
Your carbs are too much of a pain to get out and install or I might suggest just installing them again and adjusting the fuel screws.

Eric

That is exactly where we are going Eric. That sure took a while to get to, but we can get you back on the road now that we know that small bit of information.

Hold on!
That might be the cause of it loading up at stop lights.
Your carbs are too much of a pain to get out and install or I might suggest just installing them again and adjusting the fuel screws.

Eric

OK....

I can install them back no problem, well it's a pain but I will put them back, going to check the needles first, just to make sure...

should I then use the high idle method once they are back in ?

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!!!!
We may have a winner, folks.
Let's check the float levels and needles.
Provide us with the measurements and slap them puppies together and put them back on.
2.5 is the starting point, not the ending. Whew, that took a while to get to.
Let us know when everything is back together. You will need to have access to all the air screws, I always do it with the tank off.

Well hopefully I can get it all back together tonight at some point, being that nothing was drastically changed the sync should still be OK ?, but I guess if we play with the air screws it will need to be redone ?

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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!!!!!
We may have a winner, folks.
Let's check the float levels and needles.
Provide us with the measurements and slap them puppies together and put them back on.
2.5 is the starting point, not the ending. Whew, that took a while to get to.
Let us know when everything is back together. You will need to have access to all the air screws, I always do it with the tank off.

unless I misread, I thought this was the correct setting as per the rebuild tutorials ? am I wrong ?
I just left them at 2.5...

Hold on!
That might be the cause of it loading up at stop lights.
Your carbs are too much of a pain to get out and install or I might suggest just installing them again and adjusting the fuel screws.

Eric