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  • DimitriT
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    • Sep 2005
    • 9897
    • USA

    #1

    ate another stator

    I was hoping this one would last a while since I replace the RR with a much bigger Honda unit.
    It was reading a nice stead 14.5 to 15.0 for about a year since I did the replacement and I
    thought maybe, just maybe, this is it.

    Well this morning I noticed on my V-meter readout I was getting 11.2V. Knowing my bike, this
    is a sure sign the stator has fried.

    I know alot of folks have put much effort into figuring out why these stators go bad but at
    this point I have resigned myself to replacing them every two years.

    My question is: which is the best one to buy.

    thanks!!!
  • posplayr
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    • Dec 2007
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    • Tucson Az

    #2
    Originally posted by DimitriT
    I was hoping this one would last a while since I replace the RR with a much bigger Honda unit.
    It was reading a nice stead 14.5 to 15.0 for about a year since I did the replacement and I
    thought maybe, just maybe, this is it.

    Well this morning I noticed on my V-meter readout I was getting 11.2V. Knowing my bike, this
    is a sure sign the stator has fried.

    I know alot of folks have put much effort into figuring out why these stators go bad but at
    this point I have resigned myself to replacing them every two years.

    My question is: which is the best one to buy.

    thanks!!!
    See my link for the compufire series r/r and replace stator at the same time. There is also a sh775, but we don't have any conclusive test data on it yet.

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    • DimitriT
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      #3
      So replacing the RR with a compufire will save me from frying the stator?

      Looks good on paper.

      Do we have testimonials?

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      • Steve
        GS Whisperer
        • Jun 2005
        • 35924
        • southwest oHIo

        #4
        Originally posted by DimitriT
        So replacing the RR with a compufire will save me from frying the stator?

        Looks good on paper.

        Do we have testimonials?
        Many testimonials, especially from those with higher-revving engines. Makes no difference if you have a smaller engine that simply turns faster at road speed or you are cranking through the twisties in lower gears. The higher engine speeds will maximize the output of the stator, requiring the R/R to dump that much more excess current. The series R/R (Compufire and SH775) interrupts the output, instead of simply shunting it to ground.

        I am about to order a couple of SH775 units, so will be able to do some testing with them.

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        • Toasty

          #5
          The Compufire is a miracle product, it's expensive but worth it IMO.

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          • DimitriT
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            #6
            Originally posted by Steve
            Many testimonials, especially from those with higher-revving engines. Makes no difference if you have a smaller engine that simply turns faster at road speed or you are cranking through the twisties in lower gears. The higher engine speeds will maximize the output of the stator, requiring the R/R to dump that much more excess current. The series R/R (Compufire and SH775) interrupts the output, instead of simply shunting it to ground.

            I am about to order a couple of SH775 units, so will be able to do some testing with them.

            .
            Hmmm... sort of fits what I saw. I dropped a tooth on my front sprocket recently to bump up my revs by about 500 at 70 mph. Could be that helped cook it.

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            • posplayr
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              #7
              The pol is closed but I think people keep posting. See my link on CF in my signature.

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              • DimitriT
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                #8
                So the new stator came in the mail today. I am now considering installing the Compufire
                55402 R/R. Only question I have is will it fit on the GS550?

                Can someone give the dimensions of the R/R?

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                • Steve
                  GS Whisperer
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 35924
                  • southwest oHIo

                  #9
                  It may not fit in the stock location, but it will fit somewhere.

                  The footprint is about the same as a stock R/R, it's just two to three times taller.

                  .
                  sigpic
                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                  • Toasty

                    #10
                    It's also a bit wider, the stock bracket is about an inch too narrow.

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                    • posplayr
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DimitriT
                      So the new stator came in the mail today. I am now considering installing the Compufire
                      55402 R/R. Only question I have is will it fit on the GS550?

                      Can someone give the dimensions of the R/R?
                      is 3 3/4"x2 1/2"x1 5/8"
                      listed under my Compufire Installation thread (I increased the size)


                      Last edited by posplayr; 05-23-2013, 05:47 PM.

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        You may have to drill one new mounting hole and shave a couple of the cooling fins down to fit. That is what I had to do with my Compufire, though it did fit just fine after the mods.

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                        • DimitriT
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                          #13
                          One more question regarding R/Rs in general:

                          using a shunt type RR (like the Honda unit I currently have) would I get more life out of the
                          stator if I relocate the sense wire to allow the RR to generate a higher voltage?

                          Would this allow the stator to run a bit cooler?

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                          • Steve
                            GS Whisperer
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 35924
                            • southwest oHIo

                            #14
                            Your stator is ALWAYS going to put out as much as it can. Its output is merely a function of engine speed.

                            With a shunt R/R, the stator will still put out all it can, all the time, it's just a matter of whether the current gets used in the bike or wasted while shunted to ground.

                            With a series-type R/R, the stator will still try to put out all it can, but the circuit gets interrupted by the R/R to regulate the voltage.
                            Because the actual output is now pulsed, the average output of the stator is lower, which is what adds to its life.

                            .
                            sigpic
                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            • posplayr
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by DimitriT
                              One more question regarding R/Rs in general:

                              using a shunt type RR (like the Honda unit I currently have) would I get more life out of the
                              stator if I relocate the sense wire to allow the RR to generate a higher voltage?

                              Would this allow the stator to run a bit cooler?
                              As Steve is describing it the current in the stator will not change appreciably for a 0.25-0.5v change in battery voltage. You are better off routing an oil sprayer to the stator to provide better cooling.

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