Soaking harness in simple green.....

[Guest]

is it really safe to soak your entire harness in simple green?

i've read mixed reviews.

dangers?

[rustybronco]

Personally I wouldn't soak the complete harness. I don't see how you would be able to properly dry out the harness after you've finished and that's even negating the effect it may have on copper.

http://www.simplegreen.com/solutions...y=&btnShowAll=..

[bluewool]

You'd be better off soaking it in WD40.

[posplayr]

You'd be better off soaking it in WD40.

WD40 is good for gunk but I would only wipe it down with WD 40 and then maybe degrease by wiping down with some diluted simple green but (as Rusty said) no reason to soak/immerse the harness and get it completely under the tape unless you plan to complete remove all the tape.

[growler]

i have to inspect my harness further to see if i want to take all the tape completely off. sounds like a headache, but i'll see how bad it is.

[bluewool]

WD40 is good for gunk but I would only wipe it down with WD 40 and then maybe degrease by wiping down with some diluted simple green but (as Rusty said) no reason to soak/immerse the harness and get it completely under the tape unless you plan to complete remove all the tape.

Oh I agree. In most circumstances there should be no need. However, if it needs to soak it WD40 will not harm the insulation or the copper or solder connections. An alkaline cleaner like simple green may. If you do need to remove all the tape WD40 will also remove the adhesive residue. I've soaked harness' and connectors from some pretty nasty environments in without out any negative repercussions.

[growler]

excellent. thanks for the advice.

[Kiwi Canuck]

i have to inspect my harness further to see if i want to take all the tape completely off. sounds like a headache, but i'll see how bad it is.

Not too bad to rewrap your harness if you have the right tape, check out the 3M tape at Vintage Connections, awesome stuff.

Better than the stuff you can buy at hardware or automotive stores.

Here's a sample of a repaired section of my harness using the tape from Vintage Connections.

[posplayr]

Oh I agree. In most circumstances there should be no need. However, if it needs to soak it WD40 will not harm the insulation or the copper or solder connections. An alkaline cleaner like simple green may. If you do need to remove all the tape WD40 will also remove the adhesive residue. I've soaked harness' and connectors from some pretty nasty environments in without out any negative repercussions.

Agreed

I would probably only leave the simple green on long enough to cut the greasy feel of the wd-40 then spray with water and blow dry. Then some deoxit on any exposed copper brass.

The WD-40 works so well on cutting grease it is virtually immediate and doesn't need to soak and wd-40 is not so oily as to need much of anything to cut that residue off.

You may or may not have seen a motorcycle cleanup series on Youtube where the guy cleans his entire bike with WD-40 because it was so mild but an effective de-greaser. You can literally spray it on the gunkiest of areas and with a plastic brush the stuff just dissolves away. I don't think that even gas works as well and WD40 is certainly better to work with.

So again I see no reason to soak.

[posplayr]

Not too bad to rewrap your harness if you have the right tape, check out the 3M tape at Vintage Connections, awesome stuff.

Better than the stuff you can buy at hardware or automotive stores.

Here's a sample of a repaired section of my harness using the tape from Vintage Connections.

The 3M stuff is very nice, looks like the same I have. I don't think I got it at VC but same stuff anyway.

[growler]

wow, that 3M stuff looks nice.

seems like wd40 is looking the way to go for me.

[OldVet66]

I prefer the 3M Super 88. It's 7.87 mils apposed to 7 mils of the Super 33. Both withstand 105C the 33 is rated for continuous duty down to -18C and the 88 to -40C. You can get either at the electrical supply houses and I think I have gotten both at Home Depot.

[posplayr]

I prefer the 3M Super 88. It's 7.87 mils apposed to 7 mils of the Super 33. Both withstand 105C the 33 is rated for continuous duty down to -18C and the 88 to -40C. You can get either at the electrical supply houses and I think I have gotten both at Home Depot.

did not realize there were so many kinds

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=66666UF6EVsSyXTtNXT_NxMEEVtQEVs6EVs6EVs6E666666--&fn=EMD%20Tape%20Selection%20Guide%208043989

The stuff I have is just Tartan 1710 or part #49656

[Kiwi Canuck]

I prefer the 3M Super 88. It's 7.87 mils apposed to 7 mils of the Super 33. Both withstand 105C the 33 is rated for continuous duty down to -18C and the 88 to -40C. You can get either at the electrical supply houses and I think I have gotten both at Home Depot.

The stuff Vintage Connection sells is the 3M 33+, don't think I've ever seen it at the electrical wholesalers or at Home Depot here in Canada.

Next time I'm at the wholesalers I will check if they have the Super 88, may try some if they do.

Cheers,

[OldVet66]

Maybe my Mil converter was off or they are rounding the 88 up to 8Mil. The data sheet says it is .2mm thick.