$400 rectifer too much?
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The triumph Bonneville regulator has been fitted, the first thing I noticed was that I now have a massive spark at the plugs
Unfortunately the battery only gave a few turns before I had to put it back on the charger. I'll try firing her up tomorrow and will report back
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Ed
To measure is to know.
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1981 gs650L
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Ed
To measure is to know.
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Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf
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The sparksalot is better than the more expensive Smokeandmor unit then, for those of us with ignition problems too?
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1981 gs650L
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CartoonLifeStyle
Put the freshly charged battery in today, and she fired up straight away. I think I'm going to replace the coils next as I'm not convinced they are still giving 100%.
The weirdest thing is that the blueish white smoke that was coming out of the exhaust has now stopped.Comment
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Alan Funt.... Now there's a name I haven't heard in a LONG time. Hello candid camera.http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)
Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)
JTGS850GL aka Julius
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I have personally owned a whole lot of Lucas electrical components, and I've had very little to no charging trouble. My '65 Lotus is still charging fine with the original Lucas generator and points type regulator. Same thing on my '67 Cortina. I switched my '68 Cortina over to a Lucas Alternator in 1994 because of the long long dark winters in Alaska, and my hopes of using a 12 volt hot air defroster on the rear window (hopeless). I burned up two alternators high tailing it from Healy to Anchorage on weekends to autocross it in the SCCA. That turned out to be because I was supposed to take the fan off of the generator and relocate it to the alternator. Once I did that, in summer of '95, its been fine. I'm driving it daily. I crank the heck out of the original starters on the Lotus and the '68, because they both have stock type fuel pumps, and it takes most of a full battery to fill the float bowls on the webers on the Lotus/Delorttos on the Cortina. Briefly, I used a Holly electric fuel pump on the Cortina, but it was unreliable. Probably going to hook up a Facet electric on it later today though.
I have never had a Lucas stator fail, except on my Atlas when the main bearings let the magnet move around too much. I've never burned out a Zener Diode. Somehow I burned out a coil on the '75 Norton in the early 80s, but the ballast resistor had been somehow struck and was physically broken. I have worn out a couple ignition switches on Nortons and Tridents.
Smiths instruments are crap. The late 70s XJ6 I owned 35 years ago had lots of problems with the electric window switches (the contacts would weld themselves together) and the (Delco) air conditioner. In the last six months, I changed a flasher relay on the Lotus, and on the '68 Cortina.
By the late 60s to early 70's, English motorcycle charging systems were pretty solid. Certainly no worse than Suzuki. I have also never changed a GS Stator, nor have I ever changed a non functioning GS R/R, (But I have probably changed a dozen of them) so I may just be lucky. I have owned lots and lots of Lucas for lots and lots of years, and Bosch has been a lot less reliable. I have 4 Volkswagens now. Try to keep all the exterior lights working on a VW that isn't kept inside all the time. I have drilled holes in the tail light lenses on mine to let the rain water out. No kidding.
That said, I would probably have used another 15 dollar ex Gold Wing shunt type regulator long before I would have bought that.Last edited by 850 Combat; 06-03-2014, 01:37 PM.sigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things
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As I recall from my days owning the '76 Bonneville, and my association with other owners - Lucas earned the "Prince Of Darkness" label primarily due to several epic bad designs that they never seemed to get right.I have personally owned a whole lot of Lucas electrical components, and I've had very little to no charging trouble. My '65 Lotus is still charging fine with the original Lucas generator and points type regulator. Same thing on my '67 Cortina. I switched my '68 Cortina over to a Lucas Alternator in 1994 because of the long long dark winters in Alaska, and my hopes of using a 12 volt hot air defroster on the rear window (hopeless). I burned up two alternators high tailing it from Healy to Anchorage on weekends to autocross it in the SCCA. That turned out to be because I was supposed to take the fan off of the generator and relocate it to the alternator. Once I did that, in summer of '95, its been fine. I'm driving it daily. I crank the heck out of the original starters on the Lotus and the '68, because they both have stock type fuel pumps, and it takes most of a full battery to fill the float bowls on the webers on the Lotus/Delorttos on the Cortina. Briefly, I used a Holly electric fuel pump on the Cortina, but it was unreliable. Probably going to hook up a Facet electric on it later today though.
I have never had a Lucas stator fail, except on my Atlas when the main bearings let the magnet move around too much. I've never burned out a Zener Diode. Somehow I burned out a coil on the '75 Norton in the early 80s, but the ballast resistor had been somehow struck and was physically broken. I have worn out a couple ignition switches on Nortons and Tridents.
Smiths instruments are crap. The late 70s XJ6 I owned 35 years ago had lots of problems with the electric window switches (the contacts would weld themselves together) and the (Delco) air conditioner. In the last six months, I changed a flasher relay on the Lotus, and on the '68 Cortina.
By the late 60s to early 70's, English motorcycle charging systems were pretty solid. Certainly no worse than Suzuki. I have also never changed a GS Stator, nor have I ever changed a non functioning GS R/R, (But I have probably changed a dozen of them) so I may just be lucky. I have owned lots and lots of Lucas for lots and lots of years, and Bosch has been a lot less reliable. I have 4 Volkswagens now. Try to keep all the exterior lights working on a VW that isn't kept inside all the time. I have drilled holes in the tail light lenses on mine to let the rain water out. No kidding.
That said, I would probably have used another 15 dollar ex Gold Wing shunt type regulator long before I would have bought that.
First and foremost was wiring. Long after the rest of the world had converted to plastic insulations, Lucas kept using cotton or fabric insulation that would wick any moisture well up into the harness. Corrosion would be evident several INCHES up on the wires. The moisture would also allow for maddingly intermittent shorts between conductors.
Second was wire size - often the conductor size was marginal at best, mostly undersized.
Third, as you mentioned was switchgear. Never properly sealed or situated to drain, allowing moisture to attack the terminals - which would then wick up into the wiring. Additionally, they often used metals that, when wet, would galvanically react with each other, accelerating the corrosion.
My favorite Brit M/C shirt was the one that showed a Lucas light switch. Three positions. Dim/Flicker/OffComment



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