1980 GS550E Electronic ignition .... issue

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  • uk gs nut
    Forum Mentor
    • Feb 2011
    • 691
    • Co durham uk

    #46
    I have the other ND type also you could have that if you want. No problem. The difference is the condenser position, ND are one above the other longitudinal to bike KD is side by side across the bike so to speak.
    My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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    • ukjules
      Forum Sage
      • Jan 2015
      • 1225
      • Somerset, UK

      #47
      Ok , so they are totally interchangeable ?
      I need facts for I buy , order ..... Waste your time more.

      Situation now:
      Old pickups being sent over
      New dyna da3-2 kit being sent over
      A new reg from my stock being sent over just on case
      ( original without sense wire)

      I have found a Suzuki dealer. I don't think they are tech
      Enough though to sort but they are 3m away.

      Q) it won't hurt just running on 3 cyl for a few miles
      But what are the plications for many.miles ?
      I have done 35 a few months ago.
      Does it hurt engine ? Heat distribution ?
      UKJULES
      ---------------------------------
      Owner of following bikes:
      1980 Suzuki GS550ET
      1977 Yamaha RD 250D
      1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
      1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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      • uk gs nut
        Forum Mentor
        • Feb 2011
        • 691
        • Co durham uk

        #48
        Jules the DS3-2 is for ND ignition system, I am sure the systems originally fitted are interchangeable. The Dyna part with the magnet on is not, it is made for ND or KD advancers. I have both types and attach a picture ND is on the left KD on right.
        My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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        • uk gs nut
          Forum Mentor
          • Feb 2011
          • 691
          • Co durham uk

          #49
          I have sent you a private message
          My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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          • uk gs nut
            Forum Mentor
            • Feb 2011
            • 691
            • Co durham uk

            #50
            Jules I have been looking into this more. If you remove your ignition advance unit have a good look at it. If it is ND as you think the Dyna kit is DS3-2, here is a picture of ND advancer.
            My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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            • uk gs nut
              Forum Mentor
              • Feb 2011
              • 691
              • Co durham uk

              #51
              Or the KD type.
              Dyna kit DS3-1
              I am surprised no other members are taking an interest in this issue, the keyboard wizards are normally hot to trot !.
              Last edited by uk gs nut; 09-16-2016, 06:21 AM.
              My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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              • roeme
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                Past Site Supporter
                • Jul 2015
                • 1206
                • Switzerland

                #52
                Originally posted by uk gs nut
                (...)
                I am surprised no other members are taking an interest in this issue, the keyboard wizards are normally hot to trot !.
                I think it's because his writings are a bit hard to understand (At least for me). Not a problem per se, but people tend to invest their time elsewhere.
                #1: 1979 GS 550 EC "Red" – Very first Bike / Overhaul thread        New here? ☛ Read the Top 10 Newbie mistakes thread
                #2: 1978 GS 550 EC "Blue" – Can't make it a donor / "Rebuild" thread     Manuals (and much more): See Cliff's homepage here
                #3: 2014 Moto Guzzi V7 II Racer – One needs a runner while wrenching
                #4: 1980 Moto Guzzi V65C – Something to chill

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                • uk gs nut
                  Forum Mentor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 691
                  • Co durham uk

                  #53
                  Yes i agree about the grammer of his posts, but he must be frustrated being stuck in another country miles from home. He is another GSR member asking for HELP.
                  My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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                  • Guest

                    #54
                    Just checked my 550ET - it has Kokusan points ignition. Of course I don't know that this was what was originally fitted, but equally I have no reason to suppose that it has been exchanged at some time. Bottom line is, it works.

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                    • uk gs nut
                      Forum Mentor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 691
                      • Co durham uk

                      #55
                      Thats what i think Jules 550 may have had before the electronic ignition was retro fitted. I think he has ordered the Dyna for ND type ignition. We will have to wait and hear how he gets on with the repair.
                      My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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                      • ukjules
                        Forum Sage
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 1225
                        • Somerset, UK

                        #56
                        Ok many thanks ! It has rocked me again about the kokosan points.
                        That I suppose goes with the Suzuki parts diagram but against
                        what dyna say would / should be fitted .

                        The ebayer I have ordered my nd dyna from even though paid now
                        won't communicate . I have been ripped off at the worst time.
                        I am now trying to get my money back from this thief.

                        So I now rely entirely on my old pickups for the useless newtronic system
                        who again ripped me off as won't communicate.
                        If it is not pickups I would have pulled the carbs and looked
                        At carb 2. It is possible I could do that in this field
                        so that is worst case.
                        But fuel is or was getting through. Mixture ok.


                        If kokosan are indeed on a 1980 et, I believe it now.
                        Thanks for looking.
                        UKJULES
                        ---------------------------------
                        Owner of following bikes:
                        1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                        1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                        1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                        1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                        • ukjules
                          Forum Sage
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 1225
                          • Somerset, UK

                          #57
                          We have found the kokosan Mark on the atu.
                          Its either nd or kd marked on there.
                          ( the kd is barely legible but if it is not a clear nd then it's kokosan)

                          Thus I need a dyna and not what is on there website but a ds3-1

                          Now ordering off eBay !
                          Don't think illbget before Wednesday. Still stuck on Amsterdam.
                          And don't even know if this will fix it.... Joy
                          Last edited by ukjules; 09-18-2016, 02:02 AM.
                          UKJULES
                          ---------------------------------
                          Owner of following bikes:
                          1980 Suzuki GS550ET
                          1977 Yamaha RD 250D
                          1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
                          1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                          • tatu
                            Forum Sage
                            Past Site Supporter
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 3175
                            • UK

                            #58
                            You say you have spark and you have fuel because the plug is wet, that only leaves compression.
                            Have you done a compression test?
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                            Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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                            • uk gs nut
                              Forum Mentor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 691
                              • Co durham uk

                              #59
                              He had a local garage check compression and its ok. Its got me puzzled also, even swapping coils over and it still wont fire on #2. I would think carb issue ?.
                              My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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                              • tatu
                                Forum Sage
                                Past Site Supporter
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 3175
                                • UK

                                #60
                                Have you checked the plug itself? NGK plugs don't survive well once they've been flooded and wet with fuel.
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                                Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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