quick question on stator's and r/r

[Aaron deiman]

i have been rereading and rereading some of the post on here about stators and r/r's i bought a new stator with 18 poles instead of the original 12 poles and a r/r for $60 off of ebay or amazon i cannot remember either way i installed them and rode the bike for aprox 5 miles and it was going completely dead everything started dimming. went home and installed a new battery. still having the same issue. now i am concerned that the stator or r/r is not doing its proper job. tonight when i leave work i am going to stop and check the ac v from the stator and i am going to check the dc v from the r/r. now i have heard a couple of people talking about the electrosport stator and r/r i if the numbers do not out right i will be looking at getting a stator and r/r. new and be done with it. again... is electrosport reliable? or please comment direct links to something else you guys would recommend. please and thank you i have been dealing with this problem for a year now and i want to just go out and actually enjoy my 1979 gs 750l

[posplayr]

see my signature

welcome aboard, but to become a real member you need to post a picture of your bike.

[Steve]

If you have a bike that came with a 12-pole stator, you need to replace it with a 12-pole stator.

The only way around that is to pull the rotor and change it to one that is compatible with an 18-pole stator.

The R/R does not care how many poles are in the stator. In fact, your stock system probably had separate rectifier and regulator, so a small amount of adaptation would have been necessary to install a combined R/R. I hope you did that part correctly.

Electrosport is about as reliable as others, but they are certainly more expensive.

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[posplayr]

Electrosport is about as reliable as others, but they are certainly more expensive.

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Steve is referring to stators not R/Rs

[Aaron deiman]

here is a picture of my bike
i was reading through the manual and it refers to rectifier and regulator as the same thing20160812_195911.jpg

[Steve]

Steve is referring to stators not R/Rs

Very true, sorry about the lack of detail on that part.

i was reading through the manual and it refers to rectifier and regulator as the same thing

What manual do you have? The Suzuki factory manual very distinctly mentions two separate devices.

When you have downloaded the manual in the link, look at pdf page 139 (page 136 of the manual itself).

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[hillsy]

If you have a bike that came with a 12-pole stator, you need to replace it with a 12-pole stator.

The only way around that is to pull the rotor and change it to one that is compatible with an 18-pole stator.



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Hey Steve - what is the difference between a 12 or 18 pole rotor? I would have thought it wouldn't matter as long as the physical dimensions were the same?

[Steve]

If the correct number of poles do not line up, you will get NO output from the stator.

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[hillsy]

Cool - thanks. Googled it - makes sense now.

[Aaron deiman]

hey steve i do not have the manual on me today however i do believe it is the clymer manual. i would have to look it up and see what page etc or is clymer not a good manual to go off of?

[Steve]

Skip the Clymer. I gave you a link to a factory manual in post #6.

I even told you what page it was on.

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[JTGS850GL]

Here's the link to the factory service manual. It takes a LONG time to download. Be patient as it doesn't seem to show progress for a very long time.

http://zeus.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/GS750_Service_Manual_early8valve.pdf

[Aaron deiman]

thank you steve i did download the factory manual and looked at page 139 on the pdf however that looks no where near like mine does. the location even looks wrong. mine is located under the battery box. here is a picture of one that i found off the interwebs. looks 100% like the one that i took off. (besides the wire colors) the ground wire attaches to one of the screws that hold it to the battery box. on this picture the 3 yellow wires go to the stator wires and the red would go to the battery. i am going off the information from the title etc i do not have a way to check vin etc1979 suzuki rectifier.jpg

[Redman]

If looks exactly like that, it is an aftermarket R/R, which is OKay.

Weither it is mounted on bottom of battery box or side of battery box can vary from model to model.

You mentioned about the black wire grounded by bolt that mounted the R/R to battery box, which is okay. A stock one might have a longer wire that would go to the bolt that mounts the starter solenoid to the battery box, which is not much different that what you did, both are the battery box. That bolt for the starter solenoid should also have a black/white wire from bike's harness that is grounded to bike frame somewhere, which is important because the battery box mounting may not be well grounded to the frame by its mounting, so that wire IS the ground for the battery box (and R/R and starter solenoid). SOmetimes that wire is not well grounded, and then the r/r is not well grounded. Many folk recommend running you own ground wire from the starter solenoid to frame ground or batt-. But that is getting away from your main question.

If you bike has the 12 pole rotor, then you need the 12 pole stator for it to work at all.

Looks like you have a 1979.

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[Aaron deiman]

thank you redman now the thing is that i bought a 18 pole stator and i am now looking to switch the rotor over to a 18 pole rotor. would anyone have an idea or a link for a correct rotor that would work? i have looked at a couple i just want to make sure i am getting the correct rotor.
thank you very much!