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  • habsdoc
    Forum Mentor
    • Feb 2012
    • 333
    • Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

    #1

    Stator???

    Morning, What is the preferred Stator to use now??? Ricks or Electrosport??? Thanks
    1981 GS 1000GLX.
    1981 GS 1000G.
    1981 GS 650GLX.
    1975 TS 185.
    1972 100. Kawasaki.
    1968 100. Suzuki.
    1970 Z 50. Honda.
    1984 CT 70. Honda. (Kids)
    1982 DS 50. Suzuki. (Kids)
  • tom203
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    Past Site Supporter
    • Aug 2010
    • 8925
    • Norway,Maine

    #2
    Take your pick..likely made in same factory as this one. Needless to say, get a series r/r and enjoy

    1981 gs650L

    "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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    • Steve
      GS Whisperer
      • Jun 2005
      • 35924
      • southwest oHIo

      #3
      Not sure which one is "preferred", but have you upgraded your regulator?

      The SH775 R/R is highly recommended to help preserve whichever stator you purchase.

      The SH775 is readily available from wrecked Polaris ATVs for under $50, but you have to watch the eBay ads VERY carefully to make sure you are getting the real thing, not a cheap Chinese look-alike knockoff.

      Chinese knockoff:

      From the ad: it's "new", it comes from China, the bottom panel is black, the fins are all straight, and there is no lettering on the back, away from the connectors.

      The real thing:

      Numbers on the back fin are not shown, but the bottom panel is metal, there are round nubs on several fins, it is 'previously used' and it is FROM a 2013 RZR, not FOR a 2013 RZR.

      This one clearly shows the number on the back fin:


      Another one that clearly shows the numbers:


      The knockoffs are getting better at looking like the real thing. The round nubs are one factor. All of the real units have them, but so do some of the knockoffs. However, if there are no nubs, it's definitely a fake. The metal plate on the bottom is now on some of the fakes, but the real units definitely have them. Read the ad carefully. They will claim it is "for a Polaris RZR or Ranger". Any aftermarket company that hopes to sell parts will claim their parts are "for" that vehicle. It's better to have a used one that came from a Polaris RZR or Ranger. The clincher on the deal is the "SH775" on the back fin. If it's not there, don't buy it. If you find one that appears to be good, but doesn't show the back fin, ask the seller.

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      • posplayr
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        • Dec 2007
        • 23673
        • Tucson Az

        #4
        Originally posted by tom203
        Take your pick..likely made in same factory as this one. Needless to say, get a series r/r and enjoy

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/STATOR-SUZU...item1ec8f45490
        all of the electtosport stators for the 1100es I have seen use a heavy blue epoxy (compared to that picture). However I have seen other ES stator listed that do not have the heavy epoxy.
        ES also claim higher output , which is probably only at idle) if using a series r/r I would go ES with heavy epoxy is that is what is listed for your bile

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        • Steve
          GS Whisperer
          • Jun 2005
          • 35924
          • southwest oHIo

          #5
          Originally posted by posplayr
          all of the electtosport stators for the 1100es I have seen use a heavy blue epoxy (compared to that picture). However I have seen other ES stator listed that do not have the heavy epoxy.
          ES also claim higher output , which is probably only at idle) if using a series r/r I would go ES with heavy epoxy is that is what is listed for your bile
          I just got a new ES stator for each of our bikes for our "little ride". Alas, no blue.

          A nice layer of epoxy, but it's not blue.

          .
          sigpic
          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
          Family Portrait
          Siblings and Spouses
          Mom's first ride
          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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          • habsdoc
            Forum Mentor
            • Feb 2012
            • 333
            • Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

            #6
            Thanks, I burned the black wire with the white tracer at the factory splice coming out of the harness back to the frame grounding point. I think my keyed ignition switch is going bad or maybe a good cleaning could save it. My starter also seemed to be turning slower and I will have to check it for dirt and dragging.
            1981 GS 1000GLX.
            1981 GS 1000G.
            1981 GS 650GLX.
            1975 TS 185.
            1972 100. Kawasaki.
            1968 100. Suzuki.
            1970 Z 50. Honda.
            1984 CT 70. Honda. (Kids)
            1982 DS 50. Suzuki. (Kids)

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            • habsdoc
              Forum Mentor
              • Feb 2012
              • 333
              • Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

              #7
              Yes I am also using the SH775.
              1981 GS 1000GLX.
              1981 GS 1000G.
              1981 GS 650GLX.
              1975 TS 185.
              1972 100. Kawasaki.
              1968 100. Suzuki.
              1970 Z 50. Honda.
              1984 CT 70. Honda. (Kids)
              1982 DS 50. Suzuki. (Kids)

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              • posplayr
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                Past Site Supporter
                • Dec 2007
                • 23673
                • Tucson Az

                #8
                Originally posted by habsdoc
                Thanks, I burned the black wire with the white tracer at the factory splice coming out of the harness back to the frame grounding point. I think my keyed ignition switch is going bad or maybe a good cleaning could save it. My starter also seemed to be turning slower and I will have to check it for dirt and dragging.
                That is why I developed and documented the Single Point Ground.
                Last edited by posplayr; 06-19-2018, 07:44 PM.

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                • leftlostcommonsense

                  #9
                  I'm just curious, what's wrong with the chinese knockoffs? Are they really a shunt type trying to pass off as a series or are they just junk? Has there been people to have catastrophic failures with them or do they not last or do the job well? I'm just wondering, I know the real deal is always better but what's wrong with the knockoffs? If the new knockoff can do the job why is it better to buy a used one because it's an original sh775?

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by leftlostcommonsense
                    I'm just curious, what's wrong with the chinese knockoffs? Are they really a shunt type trying to pass off as a series or are they just junk? Has there been people to have catastrophic failures with them or do they not last or do the job well? I'm just wondering, I know the real deal is always better but what's wrong with the knockoffs? If the new knockoff can do the job why is it better to buy a used one because it's an original sh775?
                    I believe most of the knockoffs you see are just as you suggested - cheap shunts trying be passed off as genuine SH775 series R/R's. That's not to say that they won't function, just that they aren't R/R you think you're getting.

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                    • posplayr
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 23673
                      • Tucson Az

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Skinner
                      I believe most of the knockoffs you see are just as you suggested - cheap shunts trying be passed off as genuine SH775 series R/R's. That's not to say that they won't function, just that they aren't R/R you think you're getting.
                      SHUNT r/r have a well-documented history of burning up stators. SERIES do not.

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                      • Nessism
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35787
                        • Torrance, CA

                        #12
                        Rick's stator. They are a US base company with a 30 year history.
                        Ed

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                        • Wingsconsin
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                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1725
                          • Sussex Wisconsin

                          #13
                          ElectroSport Stator with Ricks stator cover gasket
                          I changed mine in the 850 last year.

                          This is it ..
                          Attached Files

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                          • posplayr
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                            • Dec 2007
                            • 23673
                            • Tucson Az

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wingsconsin
                            ElectroSport Stator with Ricks stator cover gasket
                            I changed mine in the 850 last year.

                            This is it ..
                            The Electrosport Stator come with a new rubber wire gland?

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                            • Wingsconsin
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                              Past Site Supporter
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 1725
                              • Sussex Wisconsin

                              #15
                              Originally posted by posplayr
                              The Electrosport Stator come with a new rubber wire gland?
                              If you mean the rubber grommet (seal for the wire pass through) --then YES it did.

                              I am not familiar with the term gland for electrical stuff - but I admit the passing of electricity through wires is black magic to me.

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