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  • Big T
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    • Mar 2005
    • 12414
    • West Slope, OR

    #1

    What happened here?

    So, I ride my 78 to Cars N Coffee Sat AM, then planning a 200 mile ride for the day

    I gear up to leave C n C, no power. Attempt bump start, nothing. No dash or headlights or anything else

    I get home and check the fuses, everything is intact there and fuses are good. Go to remove known problematic fuse panel and check the connections on the back and found this: (see photo)

    Male part of the connector goes to the fuse panel.IMG_20180721_174802807.jpgIMG_20180721_174802807.jpg
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES
  • Big T
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    • Mar 2005
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    • West Slope, OR

    #2
    The fuse panel is fine and all of the fuses are intact

    IMG_20180724_145839892.jpg

    Just that one connection caused this?
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES

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    • Nessism
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      • Mar 2006
      • 35808
      • Torrance, CA

      #3
      Orange = power

      Short?
      Ed

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      • BigD_83
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        • May 2011
        • 4872
        • Vancouver

        #4
        Day-um...

        hard to believe a fuse didn't blow when that much heat was generated.

        A short in the connector itself? The burn pattern looks suspiciously like it is tracking through just one connection where the orange (?) wire runs through.

        That main lead wire in the second photo looks a little crispy, though it might just be dirt.
        '83 GS650G
        '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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        • Big T
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          • Mar 2005
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          • West Slope, OR

          #5
          Ed,

          It's been 1,000 degrees in the garage, and I need to strip the tank (which I just filled up) and fairing to check the ends of that circuit.

          That said, that burned connector fits in the rubber pouch behind the battery, and nothing else there is melted, so I'm thinking - shorted elsewhere, this was the weak/corroded link in the circuit?
          1978 GS 1000 (since new)
          1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
          1978 GS 1000 (parts)
          1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
          1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
          1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
          2007 DRz 400S
          1999 ATK 490ES
          1994 DR 350SES

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          • Big T
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            • Mar 2005
            • 12414
            • West Slope, OR

            #6
            D - that big red wire is the main power feed from the battery to the fuse box. It's got a woven cover on it that is dirty after 40 years of use.

            Yeah, it's the orange/green wire on the Signal circuit.
            1978 GS 1000 (since new)
            1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
            1978 GS 1000 (parts)
            1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
            1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
            1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
            2007 DRz 400S
            1999 ATK 490ES
            1994 DR 350SES

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            • mvalenti
              Forum Mentor
              • Nov 2009
              • 748
              • Haverhill, MA

              #7
              it may not be a short, it could be a bad connection that builds up heat over time due to the increasing resistance. I have had stranded wire that corroded to the point where only 1/2 of the strands were carrying the current and yes, they got hot.
              -Mark
              Boston, MA
              Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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              1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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              • Guest

                #8
                looks like the smoke got let out....

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                • mvalenti
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 748
                  • Haverhill, MA

                  #9
                  Angry Pixies....
                  -Mark
                  Boston, MA
                  Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                  sigpic
                  1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                  • posplayr
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                    • Dec 2007
                    • 23673
                    • Tucson Az

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nessism
                    Orange = power

                    Short?

                    Dirty contacts that overheat. You need current (but notnecessarilyy a short). Clearly, those contacts were getting hot ,everywhere something was crimped).


                    Get some DeoXit

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                    • posplayr
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 23673
                      • Tucson Az

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mvalenti
                      it may not be a short, it could be a bad connection that builds up heat over time due to the increasing resistance. I have had stranded wire that corroded to the point where only 1/2 of the strands were carrying the current and yes, they got hot.
                      +1 Bingo .........

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