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  • timebombprod
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    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    front brakewire

    is this the wire for my front brake to turn on the brake light? im hoping it is, my front brakes been disconnected and has fell off my wheel a few time yanking the line and it came off, how do i reconnect it? im also gonna be putting on newer bars so if i need to trim the wire at all for fitting it back in am i okay to shorten it for a cleaner fit? went from the barbie girl bicycle bars to daytona style bars.

    (its a orange and yellow wire has been corroded bad id say)
    (master cylinder is sitting in paint stripper repainting the whole dash )

    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • kochic
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    • Nov 2008
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    #2
    Yes, front brake light switch.
    You can shorten the wires an inch and solder them back on.
    Almost all suzuki from the '70 and '80 have this switch.
    Marc
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    • timebombprod
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      #3
      Originally posted by kochic
      Yes, front brake light switch.
      You can shorten the wires an inch and solder them back on.
      Almost all suzuki from the '70 and '80 have this switch.
      Marc

      do i just screw it in place or do the wires have to go inside the unit
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • 1978GS750E
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        #4
        Look at the parts fiche on any of the OEM sellers. (parts outlaw, partzilla, etc. ) That will answer your question. You have a lot of small parts inside that cover that you need.
        Ron
        '78 GS1000E, '79 GS850G, '82 GS1100E, 2022 Triumph Tiger 660 Sport

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        • Rich82GS750TZ
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          #5
          Here?s a rebuild tutorial found on bikecliffs website. It?s not showing resoldering your broken wires to the board though. You may find more in searching the forum. Tip for using search: advanced, and titles only. Lots of other great stuff on bikecliffs website you?ll likely need throughout your project too. Link in my sig. bookmark it.
          Last edited by Rich82GS750TZ; 01-14-2020, 08:10 PM.
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          • salty_monk
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            #6
            Looking at the state of what I see in the picture I'd be putting a master off a EX650 on there instead... Microswitch that needs two spade connectors.
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            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
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            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

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            • Rich82GS750TZ
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              #7
              /\ yep. What salty said. Your switch looks like toast.
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              • timebombprod
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                • Nov 2019
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                • spring hill florida

                #8
                i mean it worked before lol, im just trying to get it back working its a model z im not missing anything really have anything that came off already, but yes it looks pretty corroded can i scrub and clean an itll be fine?

                is there any aftermarket brake cylinders that work well instead of buying a used one.
                Last edited by timebombprod; 01-14-2020, 08:32 PM.
                Ian

                1982 GS650GLZ
                1982 XS650

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                • rphillips
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                  #9
                  I'd guess some of the tiny parts, especially the spring, are not there. you can get a kit to replace your broken stuff, with the tiny spring, new contacts, wires, screws & all, from ebay for roughly $10. Or what he said.
                  1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                  • Baatfam
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by salty_monk
                    Looking at the state of what I see in the picture I'd be putting a master off a EX650 on there instead... Microswitch that needs two spade connectors.
                    OK...Looks like a neat idea for my 1100E.
                    Seems to be two different types on the bay.
                    One with a square resivoir cover, and the newer version is somewhat rounded.
                    Does the type/year matter? Looks like I could get one for $30-40.
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                      #11
                      i concur, that whole mess looks shagged. If you clean and reuse the master you might consider a banjo switch tho, as that switch is perty far gone to mess about with too much.

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                      • timebombprod
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                        #12
                        guys i know it looks like crap, its because its sitting in stripping gel and there was layers of paint on it i think its been just sprayed over but not stripped down before, but the bottom side that you are seeing yeah that does look bad, and i wouldnt have known about my wiring looking that bad if it didnt get snagged out.

                        rp do you have a link for a kit to replace all the electric unit?

                        the master cylinder itself works mechanically good, how do i know? well when i was riding when my bike was up the front brake worked well and better than my friends on his 81 virago, not even a week ago, i found out theres no fluid in my resevoir and only in the caliper, how did it work with fluid only in the caliper? i dont know but the brakes stopped good.


                        also im gonna get steel braided brake lines for this and take off the old ones, that banjo on my master cylinder is STUCK so it will be replaced, aswell as the line. what size does my master cylinder and my front brake take they are both stock. ( for the line and banjo to connect)
                        Ian

                        1982 GS650GLZ
                        1982 XS650

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                        • salty_monk
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Baatfam
                          OK...Looks like a neat idea for my 1100E.
                          Seems to be two different types on the bay.
                          One with a square resivoir cover, and the newer version is somewhat rounded.
                          Does the type/year matter? Looks like I could get one for $30-40.
                          Depends on your mirror setup. Either will work but the newer ones don't have a mirror post on them.

                          This is the one I have:



                          I've used a few of them on different bikes over the years. They work fine with the twinpot brakes or the GS stock ones. Same 5/8" master cylinder.
                          1980 GS1000G - Sold
                          1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                          1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                          1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                          2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                          1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                          2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                          www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                          TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                          • Baatfam
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by salty_monk
                            Depends on your mirror setup. Either will work but the newer ones don't have a mirror post on them.

                            This is the one I have:



                            I've used a few of them on different bikes over the years. They work fine with the twinpot brakes or the GS stock ones. Same 5/8" master cylinder.
                            Excellent. I run bar end mirrors, so no issue there.

                            Thanks!
                            Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                            '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                            • salty_monk
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by timebombprod
                              i mean it worked before lol, im just trying to get it back working its a model z im not missing anything really have anything that came off already, but yes it looks pretty corroded can i scrub and clean an itll be fine?

                              is there any aftermarket brake cylinders that work well instead of buying a used one.
                              Under those two blobs of solder are two wire pins. under that plate are two copper strips, a ball bearing & a spring. You can clean up the contacts underneath, remove that solder, cut your wires back & re-solder. It's always somewhat of a weak point but if you want to keep it what have you got to lose?

                              Or you could get a banjo switch but at that point you are half way to a better master cylinder with an adjustable lever (i.e. the EX650 one)



                              From memory the Suzuki stuff is M10x1mm and the newer stuff is M10x1.25mm
                              1980 GS1000G - Sold
                              1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                              1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                              1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                              2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                              1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                              2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                              www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                              TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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