Ignition trigger system, which is ?better??

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  • melchiro
    Forum Apprentice
    • May 2013
    • 74
    • Mill Creek, WA

    #1

    Ignition trigger system, which is ?better??

    Question to the Experts.

    Which do you prefer, for performance?
    The GS1000 two wire electronic pick up, with mechanical advice trigger rotor, with the GS1000 igniter box, or,

    The Newer GS850 four wire electronic pick up, with the single trigger rotor, with the newer GS850 igniter box?

    Engine is 1980 GS1000G, with big bore piston..

    Thanks,
    Mel
  • Big T
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    • Mar 2005
    • 12390
    • West Slope, OR

    #2
    Actually, the Dyna S
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES

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    • Nessism
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      • Mar 2006
      • 35786
      • Torrance, CA

      #3
      Performance won't be impacted either way. The later 850 system has the advance curve built into the ignitor, the early systems used a mechanical governor.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

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      • melchiro
        Forum Apprentice
        • May 2013
        • 74
        • Mill Creek, WA

        #4
        Originally posted by Nessism
        Performance won't be impacted either way. The later 850 system has the advance curve built into the ignitor, the early systems used a mechanical governor.
        Thank you Nessism.

        Are the ignitor box with the "Built In" advance curve, reliable? Meaning a 38 year old electronic box wont go stupid on me, and not advance timing when the revs go up?

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        • Nessism
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          • Mar 2006
          • 35786
          • Torrance, CA

          #5
          I've never heard of the advance curve going off kilter before. The boxes do fail from time to time though, particularly if the charging system is over charging. Personally I wouldn't replace the early system for the later. That doesn't seem like a practical use of resources. Instead, upgrade the charging system by installing a SH775 and rewiring the system to eliminate the stator loop. That's time well spent.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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          • chris
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            • May 2019
            • 145
            • squamish B.C canada

            #6
            Hi, another option is the Ignitech sparker TCIP-4, I recently purchased one. The unit is pretty slick, programmable and does away with your mechanical advance if you like all for 129 USD. I also bought coils from them so my ignition system will be new and modern. As for reliability of the OEM system, mine has never given me a problem.
            1983 gs1100ed restro-mod. 1998 gsxr 1100 almost mint, 2019 kawasaki klx250, 2011 Beta 250 evo trials bike, 2017 Montesa 300rr trials bike, 2021 honda crf250rx woods weapon

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            • melchiro
              Forum Apprentice
              • May 2013
              • 74
              • Mill Creek, WA

              #7
              Thanks for all of the quick replies. Much appreciated.

              Mel

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