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  • timebombprod
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #16
    I'm hoping it has to do with the turn signal, I've noticed when the turn signal acts fine the bike acts fine, and when the signal doesnt want to fully work or work very slow, the bike will start acting up on me
    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650

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    • timebombprod
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      • Nov 2019
      • 1666
      • spring hill florida

      #17
      Okay so, before I start the bike, I'm just gonna say my turn signals are acting right, so if my bike has no short going on, I guess that should be the issue. Forgot to add I just pushed the turn signal piece in the wire, probably was a tiny bit loose

      The only other thing I have done is turn the pilot screws out half a turn because my plugs arent looking well, and cut the fuel line a bit because a newly added fuel filter caused kink. We'll see what happens
      Last edited by timebombprod; 05-01-2021, 03:40 PM.
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • timebombprod
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        • Nov 2019
        • 1666
        • spring hill florida

        #18
        Here is the video, short/skip at :16, :28, :30, :39, 1:06, 1:12, 1:26, 1:32, 1:38.


        Noticed when it does that the ignition wires that come from dyna S and connect to the coil wires do shake when it happens, maybe just because it's not tied down and the shirt causes a bit if a shake.

        Everytine the short happens the bike drops a little, but doesnt stay down.

        Dont rule out stuff that's mechanical, it very well could be a mechanical problem.
        Ian

        1982 GS650GLZ
        1982 XS650

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        • Rich82GS750TZ
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          • Jun 2018
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          • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

          #19
          You gotta stop messing with more than one thing at a time. Leave the carbs alone. You haven’t run it enough to evaluate plug color/fouling. Why add a fuel filter into the mix, which could cause fuel flow issues that you didn’t have before. Slow down. If you think your problem is electrical/ignition related. Sort that. Get it running, then you can tune, if the bench sync I’m assuming the shop you recently had do carb work doesn’t prove to be exactly where you want things.
          Links​

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          • LAB3
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            • Mar 2018
            • 3523
            • No fixed address

            #20
            Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ
            You gotta stop messing with more than one thing at a time.
            We've been telling him that for a year now....
            2001 Kawasaki Voyager XII (Current bike)
            1982 GS450txz (former bike)

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            • grcamna2
              Forum Mentor
              • Feb 2018
              • 758
              • Davis,CA.95616

              #21
              I watched the Youtube and that 'snap' sound almost sounds like a spark could be leaking or jumping from one of your coils or coil wires to the frame.I would consider removing the fuel tank and set-up a remote fuel supply suspended on the handlebars,etc. to gravity feed the carbs,block-off the vacuum line(check for a vacuum leaks also?)and run it in a low-light place to see if you may have a spark jumping off your coils/wires. imo.
              Be careful with a remote tank so it doesn't leak,keep the fittings to the fuel line tight.Do you have any members near you who might lend assistance to help with this process ?
              Last edited by grcamna2; 05-01-2021, 05:58 PM.

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              • timebombprod
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                • Nov 2019
                • 1666
                • spring hill florida

                #22
                Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ
                You gotta stop messing with more than one thing at a time. Leave the carbs alone. You haven’t run it enough to evaluate plug color/fouling. Why add a fuel filter into the mix, which could cause fuel flow issues that you didn’t have before. Slow down. If you think your problem is electrical/ignition related. Sort that. Get it running, then you can tune, if the bench sync I’m assuming the shop you recently had do carb work doesn’t prove to be exactly where you want things.
                Was told to add the filter, wasnt my idea

                I'm just gonna leave pilot screws where they are at for now i just did half a turn and they were at 2 1/2
                Ian

                1982 GS650GLZ
                1982 XS650

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                • timebombprod
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                  • Nov 2019
                  • 1666
                  • spring hill florida

                  #23
                  Originally posted by grcamna2
                  Be careful with a remote tank so it doesn't leak,keep the fittings to the fuel line tight.Do you have any members near you who might lend assistance to help with this process ?
                  Probably not

                  In weeki watchi florida
                  Ian

                  1982 GS650GLZ
                  1982 XS650

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                  • timebombprod
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                    • Nov 2019
                    • 1666
                    • spring hill florida

                    #24
                    Originally posted by grcamna2
                    I watched the Youtube and that 'snap' sound almost sounds like a spark could be leaking or jumping from one of your coils or coil wires to the frame.I would consider removing the fuel tank and set-up a remote fuel supply suspended on the handlebars,etc. to gravity feed the carbs,block-off the vacuum line(check for a vacuum leaks also?)and run it in a low-light place to see if you may have a spark jumping off your coils/wires. imo.
                    Be careful with a remote tank so it doesn't leak,keep the fittings to the fuel line tight.Do you have any members near you who might lend assistance to help with this process ?

                    Forgot to add that was me on throttle, let off at the end. Was making sure short wouldnt shut it off
                    Ian

                    1982 GS650GLZ
                    1982 XS650

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                    • grcamna2
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                      • Feb 2018
                      • 758
                      • Davis,CA.95616

                      #25
                      Originally posted by timebombprod
                      Forgot to add that was me on throttle, let off at the end. Was making sure short wouldnt shut it off

                      I had a bike from someone I was working on before:we installed the high power coils and later it seems the silicone 'automotive type' wires were loosing spark somewhere and a couple of the connections where we crimped-on other ends after shortening the wires.There was spark jumping to a frame bracket and it had similar feedback as yours is doing.

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                      • timebombprod
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                        • Nov 2019
                        • 1666
                        • spring hill florida

                        #26
                        Originally posted by grcamna2
                        I had a bike from someone I was working on before:we installed the high power coils and later it seems the silicone 'automotive type' wires were loosing spark somewhere and a couple of the connections where we crimped-on other ends after shortening the wires.There was spark jumping to a frame bracket and it had similar feedback as yours is doing.
                        How was it repaired?
                        Ian

                        1982 GS650GLZ
                        1982 XS650

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                        • alke46
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                          • Harrison, Ar.

                          #27
                          If you are going to try this, remember to have some fans running on the engine. You might have to have it running a while so don't let the engine overheat.
                          Larry

                          79 GS1000E 2019 Triumph 800 XRT

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                          • timebombprod
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                            • Nov 2019
                            • 1666
                            • spring hill florida

                            #28
                            Originally posted by alke46
                            If you are going to try this, remember to have some fans running on the engine. You might have to have it running a while so don't let the engine overheat.
                            All good I know the drill....(unfortunately)
                            Ian

                            1982 GS650GLZ
                            1982 XS650

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                            • grcamna2
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                              • Feb 2018
                              • 758
                              • Davis,CA.95616

                              #29
                              Originally posted by timebombprod
                              How was it repaired?

                              I replaced the graphite core 'auto spec' ignition wires with good copper-core(like oem has)ignition wires that had very good quality boots on both ends.That was a while back and I went to this foreign auto parts place that had good quality plug terminals also;I believe it was Carquest back when I lived in Bethlehem,PA in 2011'.

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                              • timebombprod
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                                • Nov 2019
                                • 1666
                                • spring hill florida

                                #30
                                Originally posted by grcamna2
                                I replaced the graphite core 'auto spec' ignition wires with good copper-core(like oem has)ignition wires that had very good quality boots on both ends.That was a while back and I went to this foreign auto parts place that had good quality plug terminals also;I believe it was Carquest back when I lived in Bethlehem,PA in 2011'.
                                So the wires that come from the igniter to the coilpacks?

                                Just making sure, I dont have the igniter anymore but just makes easier to picture what I'm talking about.

                                The one thing that hasn't been replaced for the ignition system are those wires.

                                Better to open harness or just tie them off and run a new set? Only challenge for me will be making the 12v connection for the hot wires
                                Ian

                                1982 GS650GLZ
                                1982 XS650

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