stripped carb bowl hole - best thread insert?

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  • bren
    Forum Apprentice
    • Dec 2023
    • 78
    • Dallas, TX

    #1

    stripped carb bowl hole - best thread insert?

    Sadly, I've discovered a small leak from the carb bowl that needs fixed. One of the screw holes is stripped out. I tried cleaning it up with a tap but I don't think it had quite enough meat left to hold it.

    One of the carb bowl screws was replaced by a PO, and they didn't add a lock washer. I'd like to blame them but I very well could have overtightened it and stripped it out myself.

    Anyway, the holes are through holes, is anyone experienced with thread inserts? would a helicoil work here? it's not very thick so I don't know. I've never used one before.
    1982 GS450 txz
  • Syd
    Forum Apprentice
    • Apr 2023
    • 60
    • Melbourne, Australia

    #2
    Any chance of using a longer bolt with a suitable nut? Not ideal, but if there's enough room it may provide a suitable outcome
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    • bren
      Forum Apprentice
      • Dec 2023
      • 78
      • Dallas, TX

      #3
      Originally posted by Syd
      Any chance of using a longer bolt with a suitable nut? Not ideal, but if there's enough room it may provide a suitable outcome
      yea. that's what i ended up doing. I'm not wild about it, but it does work. I picked up a #6-32 bolt 3/4" long and a nylock nut at home depot. Just gotta remember to keep an 8mm wrench in my kit

      i also gotta take the bracket off the bottom now to get the bowls off. but I guess that's my stupid tax for stripping a bolt out.

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      Last edited by bren; 02-04-2025, 11:06 PM.
      1982 GS450 txz

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      • Nessism
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        • Mar 2006
        • 35783
        • Torrance, CA

        #4
        There looks like enough meal for a helicoil. Measure to be sure, but most likely M6.

        Edit: brain fade set it. The common VM carbs are 4mm and BS/CV are 5mm. What carbs are we talking about? I see 450 in your signature. Those carbs are a bit odd, particularly the early version. Could be 4mm, but that is inconsistent with most other CV's.

        Edit2: PN is 02112-0412A

        ​So that does reference 4mm x 12mm long
        Last edited by Nessism; 02-05-2025, 07:42 AM.
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        • bren
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          • Dec 2023
          • 78
          • Dallas, TX

          #5
          Originally posted by Nessism
          There looks like enough meal for a helicoil. Measure to be sure, but most likely M6.
          yea, there might be. I'll revisit it at some point. I've still got a broken cam cover bolt to deal with eventually so I'll probably do them both then. fingers crossed I just won't need to take the carbs apart again for awhile.

          the carb bowl screws are m4-0.7's. the above hardware was like 5 bucks for a set so I went with that.
          1982 GS450 txz

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          • zed1015
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            • Oct 2020
            • 411
            • North Lincolnshire - UK .

            #6
            I helicoil them back to M4 but the stripped out thread is the correct size to run an M5 tap through so you could do that and fit m5 bolts.
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            • chuck hahn
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              • May 2009
              • 25918
              • Norman, Oklahoma

              #7
              Ive had that happen. i just retapped the hole one size higher and drilled the hole in the bowl bigger. belive it was 5MM Done in a few minutes
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              • bren
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                • Dec 2023
                • 78
                • Dallas, TX

                #8
                Yea I thought about that too. I looked for some m5 hardware but couldn't find any locally that had a small enough head to fit. I'd have to order a bolt online. I do have a m5x0.8 tap so it's an option in the future
                1982 GS450 txz

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                • chuck hahn
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                  • May 2009
                  • 25918
                  • Norman, Oklahoma

                  #9
                  allen heads..............local fastenal store
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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