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  • bietau85

    #1

    Replacing (checking) Starter Solenoids

    Now ive browsed and ive seen answers to checking the relay for click to see if its good. now see im thinking that i have some bad wiring going on and i am no guru on circuitry. all i need to know is what connections need to be made to hear this click ( because im not hearing one but my start switch may be junk but it used to work and is kept in a dry environment) also on top of the solenoid i have the green w yellow tracer hooked up, the starter motor wire (black Thick gauge) hooked up adjacent to the battery power... am i missing a connection? the answer might already be out ther but i cant spend 2 hours going through all my search results, sorry i will say i was browsing for a good hour. (maybe im blind)
  • Steve
    GS Whisperer
    • Jun 2005
    • 35924
    • southwest oHIo

    #2
    First, you need to ensure that it is properly grounded through its mount. They are usually bolted to the battery box, which is rubber-mounted to cushion the battery a bit. Therefore, there is a wire that is usually attached to one of the solenoid's mounting screws and leads to either a chassis ground or the battery negative terminal.

    Look on top of the solenoid, you will see two large terminals and a smaller wire that is soldered in place. One of the large terminals goes straight to the battery, the other goes to the starter. Use a jumper wire to connect the battery termiknal to the coldered connection, the solenoid should CLICK.

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    • bietau85

      #3
      okay so the only wire i have on here Steve thats soldered is the yellow green wire that is connected up to the clutch switch i believe. now you want me to jump from batt + post on the relay to that wire correct? dont wanna fry it for sure so i figured i should ask. now as for the ground i recall the solenoid having clean brass rivets for the mount going into the airbox and i grounded that already, but as to there being a ground actually on a screw or solder point i dont have one in place. i have a screw with nothing on it diagonal of the soldered wire and there is a blank spot rectangular shaped next to that vacant screw that looks as if there may have been a solder point there at one time but i am unsure. this wouldnt be so difficult for me since i have a photographic memory thats decent but the nimrod owner before me put the starter on a switch completely bypassing the solenoid which in turn burnt my starter on my first motor i do believe.

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      • Big T
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        • Mar 2005
        • 12388
        • West Slope, OR

        #4
        That's right -power up the yellow wire and see if it clicks

        Run a wire from one of the mounting screws to the battery negative (temporarily)

        It should give you a nice click
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        • bietau85

          #5
          yup its the solenoid its toast. i hate ebay. lol. but hey besides that i finished up the rest of the bike! ( im was swapping motors cause my old trans was trash) i got this motor for $80 bucks on a gamble cause the guy bought 4 vintage suzukis from a guy who was losing his house, sad but reality, and he would not tell him anything about the bikes other than the katana was a rebuild that was never fired up. well let me tell you the pistons and valves were shiny thats all i could see, brand new ngk's, fresh oil, the works, i just repainted to a sweet high temp gloss black, i rebuilt my carbs slapped it all together and the baby sounds so sweet with my exaust i have. i had no idea my bike could sound like this. not a tick to the motor, its harmonic as all can be. idles steady and started with minimal choke. great compression, solid trans shift. im exstatic ( if you cant tell). this is my first bike so i didnt want to sell it for parts just because of the trans. Glad i didn't. im glad theres a forum like this in existance.

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          • Steve
            GS Whisperer
            • Jun 2005
            • 35924
            • southwest oHIo

            #6
            Originally posted by bietau85
            yup its the solenoid its toast. i hate ebay. ...
            What does one have to do with the other?

            You don't have to get a solenoid from eBay.

            Go to Lowe's, Home Depot, or your local Troy-bilt store and get one for a garden tractor. Perfect fit, probably less than $20.

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            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
            Family Portrait
            Siblings and Spouses
            Mom's first ride
            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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            • bietau85

              #7
              yeah well cut me some slack here im a noob.lol. i didnt know that until about 3 hours ago when i was browsing pages looking for my issue on the solenoid. Im going there tomorrow. i just got it because i was looking for a motor at the same time and wound up getting this broken crap of a solenoid for cheap so not a big deal.

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