1982 1100 E - TEMPERATURE Question

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  • Gregory
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    1982 1100 E - TEMPERATURE Question

    I have a friend who just got a 1982 1100e and told me that he was sitting at a stop light yesterday and felt a lot of heat off the engine and noticed the temp gauge was up to 280 F.

    It stayed up that high even after getting going down the road. He said the gauge only goes to 300, so he is worried that with the coming Texas heat, he may have problems.

    The bike is stock with no oil cooler. What is the normal operating temp for his bike? Is there anything he should watch out for?
    82 gs1100e FAUX Skunk
    80 gs1000s
  • koolaid_kid

    #2
    Mine ran at that temp stock. When I installed a cooler, temps dropped dramatically. A must do, IMHO, but opinions vary.

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    • Badooka

      #3
      Are the 1100E's water cooled???
      I rode a GS650 in Phoenix and remember hot legs, not the sexy kind either!!!!

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      • bonanzadave
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        #4
        Originally posted by Badooka
        Are the 1100E's water cooled???


        If its TX HOT (100F) that does not seem out of the question. Mine has gone that high in slow traffic on a hot day. Tell him if hes in traffic that often he should stay on top of the oil recommend for high temps. GSRs recommends Rotella T15W40

        I work with airplanes whose engines (air cooled) typically climb out, full power, on a hot day at 400f.
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        • Badooka

          #5
          Yep- I used Valvoline 20W-50 and added an STP oil treatment to that in AZ- 120 ambient wasn't uncommon- like a hair dryer in the face. Bike had zero issues. Changed it every 1K miles. Use Rotella in everything now.

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          • Guest

            #6
            Mine runs about 220-230 depending how you read the scale, actually runs with that horizontal needle about 0900 (9 o'clock). I run cooler plugs in it now. It used to run very hot, so hot that it bothered me, but it was very hot outside anyway, 100 degrees or so. It hasn't been that hot yet this year so I would expect a little more upside to what I'm getting now. But these engines run very hot normally I've come to believe.

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            • posplayr
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              #7
              Originally posted by sedelen
              Mine runs about 220-230 depending how you read the scale, actually runs with that horizontal needle about 0900 (9 o'clock). I run cooler plugs in it now. It used to run very hot, so hot that it bothered me, but it was very hot outside anyway, 100 degrees or so. It hasn't been that hot yet this year so I would expect a little more upside to what I'm getting now. But these engines run very hot normally I've come to believe.
              It gets worse with 1166, A cooler helps. Also (and this has been contested by many without any evidence) the Compufire dramatically lowered my operating temp. Alternatively if you mount an oil sprayer onto the stator the temp will also drop.




              you will notice the sprayer location here (approx 8:00). You need to get between the rotor and the stator without hitting the rotor. There is an oil line running from my top end oiler distribution block. With 750 gears I run a reduced sized orifice (about 0.100" as I recall located at the block)

              Last edited by posplayr; 05-18-2013, 05:56 PM.

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              • chuck hahn
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                #8
                250 to 280 is about where the Cooley guage falls in the 95 to 100 degree days. And you have rode the Cooley Greg..do you think that not having an oil cooler has had any adverse effects on the bike??? LMAO. I thought you would say no!!!
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
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                • gearhead13

                  #9
                  I wouldnt trust the stock sensors and gauges too much. I swapped gauges on mine and temps shown dropped 100 deg or so

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                  • posplayr
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gearhead13
                    I wouldnt trust the stock sensors and gauges too much. I swapped gauges on mine and temps shown dropped 100 deg or so
                    I verified the resistance measurements of both the sensor (v.s. temp) and the gauge according to the manual.

                    And without a change of the gauge, the indicated temperature did drop substantially. I also have a VDO temp gauge, not sure I want to add it to the mix.

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                    • redstedman

                      #11
                      The gauges are not accurate. My 11E runs @ 190 ish area in 75-80 deg temps. It probably is NOT 180. It is more like 210/220.

                      I would check the oil pick up screen on that hot bike + use heavier oil, & an oil cooler if going south

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                      • Nessism
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                        #12
                        I tested the gauge in my first 1000S as shown below. Used boiling water. The gauge needle indicated a little above the 200F mark. Pretty darn close if you ask me.

                        Ed

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                        • Frank Z.
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                          #13
                          Was wondering if one could get an accurate temp reading by shooting a running engine with an infrared thermometer... and where on the motor would offer the best read (casing, head, exhausts...)?
                          Have an oil cooler that will be added this summer, as i've experience 300? + temp gauge readings
                          Last edited by Frank Z.; 05-19-2013, 08:35 AM.
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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Frank Z.
                            Was wondering if one could get an accurate temp reading by shooting a running engine with an infrared thermometer... and where on the motor would offer the best read (casing, head, exhausts...)?
                            Have an oil cooler that will be added this summer, as i've experience 300? + temp gauge readings
                            I have one of those nifty little gauges, it looks like a ordinary tire pressure gauge except shorter. It's good for a ballpark reading, but the temps vary greatly depending where you shoot it. I use it on my exhausts but those readings are all different depending on which pipe you shoot.
                            The stock sending unit just uses the oil temperature as I'm sure you know.

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                            • Frank Z.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sedelen
                              I have one of those nifty little gauges, it looks like a ordinary tire pressure gauge except shorter. It's good for a ballpark reading, but the temps vary greatly depending where you shoot it. I use it on my exhausts but those readings are all different depending on which pipe you shoot.
                              The stock sending unit just uses the oil temperature as I'm sure you know.
                              Thanks, Steve. So, maybe get a reading close to the sending unit on casing is the way to go(?) Have access to a good quality infrared thermo and will give 'er a shot this week... when TX temps hit a balmy 100?
                              '80 GS1000ST
                              '92 ZX-11
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