Brake piston issue, ordered from Bike Bandit???

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  • 1978GS750E
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    • Apr 2016
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    • Lexington, KY

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    Brake piston issue, ordered from Bike Bandit???

    I ordered two sets of front brake pistons and seals for my 1978 GS750E thru Bike Bandit. I got one set and they cancelled the backorder??? Ordered another set and they shipped in 2 days! The problem lies in when I went to rebuild the calipers this morning. The pistons and seals that I received in both sets are 42mm diameter. The original pistons on my bike are 38mm diameter. I checked 3 websites, which I believe all use the same parts fiche, and part # 59100-45813 shows that it fits the front caliper for my bike. So.....can anyone verify what the correct diameter piston is in a 1978 GS750E? I want to make sure that someone has not changed the calipers on my bike before sending these pistons and seals back. I could just turn down the pistons but the seals are too big also. The end that holds the dust cover is the same on both the new and old pistons and the length is the same. Anyone have any ideas?
    Ron
    78 GS1000E, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
    22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660
  • Nessism
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    #2
    Alpha Sport shows these numbers...

    Part# 59100-44823 Desc PISTON SET -SU USD Price 60.06 Quantity

    *supersedes 59100-44820 59100-44821 59100-44822
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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    • fastbysuzuki
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      • Nov 2012
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      • Wyre, Lancashire.uk

      #3
      Hi I looked around and I took this from Z1
      Fits Front Brake Caliper - 38mm diameter Suzuki GV1200GLF/GLF2/GLG 1985-86 GS1100GZ/GD/GLZ/GLD 1982-83 GS1000GT/GLT/GX/GLX 1980-81 GS850GT/GX 1980-81 GS850GZ/GD 1982-83 GS850GLT/GLX/GLZ/GLD 1980-83 GS750ET/EX/EZ 1980-82 GS750ED/ESD 1983 GS750LT/LX 1980-81 GS700EF/ESF 1984 GV700GLF/GLF2 1985-86 GN400TX/TZ 1981-82 GN400...
      i know it does not list 1978 gs750 but I cannot see the 750 be fitted with larger Pistons than the 1200, 1100 and 1000
      I have not had a 750 so hopefully someone will be more helpfull

      The big guy up there rides a Suzuki (this I know)
      1981 gs850gx

      1999 RF900
      past bikes. RF900
      TL1000s
      Hayabusa
      gsx 750f x2
      197cc Francis Barnett
      various British nails

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      • hannibal
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        • Jun 2015
        • 1033
        • Washington DC

        #4
        I spent a good deal of time navigating early GS750 calipers. As far as I know, the dual disc bikes used calipers with smaller pistons. Details and pics here: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...r-rebuild-kits
        Jordan

        1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
        2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
        1973 BMW R75/5

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        • 1978GS750E
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          #5
          Thanks Hannibal! I have found a lot of confusion with these brakes. The bike that I have has the 38mm pistons and the "78" mounting bracket. The other bike that I sold had the larger pistons and the "77" mounting bracket, yet both were 1978 models and had dual disc brakes up front. It looks like Suzuki might have made a change mid-model year on these front brakes. Lots of the online parts sellers show the incorrect part numbers in their "where used" lists. It looks like I may have to actually talk to one of the "experts" at Bike Bandit, Partszilla, Z1, or Parts Outlaw to get the correct parts.

          Geez......all I wanted was to stop a leaking caliper........boy this is fun! Oh well, at least it is cold here!
          Ron
          78 GS1000E, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
          22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660

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          • uk gs nut
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            • Feb 2011
            • 692
            • Co durham uk

            #6
            Is the bigger piston just for single disc setup. I think I can remember using a left caliper from my gs1000n on my son's gs550. The right caliper was from a twin setup and had a smaller piston.
            My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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            • 1978GS750E
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              #7
              I believe the larger piston is used in single brake bikes and the smaller 38mm piston is used in dual front brake bikes. none of the so-called "experts" at any of the online sellers can tell me the diameter of the pistons that they sell. May have to try the 38mm Honda pistons, at least they specify the diameter. Geez.....it's only 40 years old!
              Ron
              78 GS1000E, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
              22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660

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              • 1978GS750E
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                #8
                OK, now I'm at the end of the proverbial rope! Cannot find the Suzuki 38mm front brake pistons and seals anywhere. Or at least anyone that can verify that the pistons and seals that they sell are 38mm diameter. ANYONE know of a Suzuki brake piston and seal that is 38mm diameter and still available?
                Ron
                78 GS1000E, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
                22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660

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                • salty_monk
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                  #9
                  Upgrade to the twinpots if you don't care about originality. Part supply is still good on those...
                  1980 GS1000G - Sold
                  1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                  1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                  1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                  2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                  1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                  2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                  www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                  TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                  • Fjbj40
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1221
                    • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

                    #10
                    DON'T MISS OURBRAKE CALIPER SERVICES. • 5x Copper Washers. BRAKE CALIPER. We cannot take responsibility for faults resulting from incorrect fitting or assembly. -ASK THE EXPERTS. • 1x Assembly Grease Sachet.


                    these?
                    1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                    1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                    I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                    • hannibal
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                      • Jun 2015
                      • 1033
                      • Washington DC

                      #11
                      59100-45833 is the part number for the 38mm pistons. I think I still have the kit. I'll take a pic tomorrow if I can find it.
                      Jordan

                      1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
                      2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                      1973 BMW R75/5

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                      • 1978GS750E
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                        #12
                        That part number is not available on Parts Outlaw, and does not come up at all on Bike Bandit or Partzilla searches. Thanks anyway!
                        Ron
                        78 GS1000E, 82 GS1100E, 83 GS1100ES,
                        22 Triumph Tiger Sport 660

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                        • Sam 78 GS750
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                          #13
                          I'm looking for these myself right now. P/N for 78 piston set is 59100-44823

                          Unavailable on all the typical sites.

                          Can anyone recommend aftermarket 38mm pistons?
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                          Check out my rebuild thread here: https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...GS-750-Rebuild

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                          • fastbysuzuki
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                            #14
                            If you are still needing the parts try here http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/suzuki/g...front_caliper/
                            they are in the uk and a very good outfit if you mail them ime sure they will confirm or not if they are 38mm
                            as always they are likely more expensive here than the USA.
                            The big guy up there rides a Suzuki (this I know)
                            1981 gs850gx

                            1999 RF900
                            past bikes. RF900
                            TL1000s
                            Hayabusa
                            gsx 750f x2
                            197cc Francis Barnett
                            various British nails

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