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  • timebombprod
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    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    valve adjust is working :)

    finally clicked and saw what i was supposed to be putting the ziptie in, shouldve focused more when reading instructions because its way eaiser than i thought. gonna put 2 vids showing where to locate the valve and also getting the shim off, im probably doing things i shouldnt but i guess its fine for the first time be more careful the second.

    also i measured a shim that said 2.65 and my caliper said 2.50 or 2.51, and on another shim it said 2.52 do you think its because of a cheap digital caliper or something of my mistake. ill just double check them
    update: ex4 2.52, ex3 2.50-.51, in1 2.53.



    getting the gap formed


    getting the shim out
    Last edited by timebombprod; 02-21-2020, 04:45 PM.
    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • tom203
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    #2
    You might be applying too much pressure to caliper....but I too have found discrepancies with shim markings . Just keep the clearances on high side. Keep track of what shim you took out and what you put in for each spot. Steve?s spreadsheet might be calling!
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    • timebombprod
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      • Nov 2019
      • 1666
      • spring hill florida

      #3
      update is in 1 :2.54, ex 4 :2.53 but had 2.52 the first time, ex 3: 2.50

      i put the shim in place on the caliper first where it wont fall down sitting between the clamps and the turned on, took out shim, and closed gap. is that a good method?
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • robertbarr
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        #4
        1) Turn on calipers.
        2) Press jaws together -- not forcefully, just press the measuring surfaces together.
        3) Press the 'Zero' button, and make sure you've selected millimeters.
        4) Use the roller thingy to open the jaws a bit wider than the thickness of the shim.
        5) Put shim between jaws, roughly centered.
        6) Use roller to close jaws onto the shim.
        7) Read the thickness on the LCD.

        Here's a video: https://www.google.com/search?channe...u0PEP87yIiAQ34
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        • timebombprod
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          • Nov 2019
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          • spring hill florida

          #5
          Originally posted by robertbarr
          1) Turn on calipers.
          2) Press jaws together -- not forcefully, just press the measuring surfaces together.
          3) Press the 'Zero' button, and make sure you've selected millimeters.
          4) Use the roller thingy to open the jaws a bit wider than the thickness of the shim.
          5) Put shim between jaws, roughly centered.
          6) Use roller to close jaws onto the shim.
          7) Read the thickness on the LCD.

          Here's a video: https://www.google.com/search?channe...u0PEP87yIiAQ34
          okay in 1 is 2.53 ex 4 is 2.51 and ex 3 is 2.50 or .51 so can i narrow them down to 2.55, 2.50, and 2.50.


          my clearance on ex 4 is .04 and the shim is 2.50 so should that be a 2.45 now, ex 3 was under .02 clearance and its a 2.50 so 2.45? and then in 1 is .04 and shim is a 2.55 so should it be a 2.50.

          is .09 too loose? itd be ex 4 and in 1.
          Ian

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          • Steve
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            • Jun 2005
            • 35927
            • southwest oHIo

            #6
            A couple of things I noticed in your first video.

            1. You spent a LOT of time looking through the spark plug hole, trying to watch the valve come down. Just turn the crank and watch the cam lobe push it down. After you get the zip-tie in, turn the crank one full turn, then pull the shim.

            2. Don't use a razor knife to pry the shims up. It is far too easy to break the tip off, then you have loose metal flying somewhere. If you're lucky, it will fly into your eye. If you're not so lucky, it will fall into the engine and cause some damage.

            3. Why the **** is the gas tank still on the bike?

            Not sure I want to watch the second video.

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            • timebombprod
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              • Nov 2019
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              • spring hill florida

              #7
              Originally posted by Steve
              A couple of things I noticed in your first video.



              3. Why the **** is the gas tank still on the bike?

              Not sure I want to watch the second video.

              .
              second vid is taking shim out after i take tank off and it was on cuz i put away the valve project and did other things

              do you think im measuring my shims correctly tho?
              Ian

              1982 GS650GLZ
              1982 XS650

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              • Grimly
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                #8
                Tip: to fish the shim off the bucket I was using a small screwdriver for years.
                Then I discovered these...


                You see the two at the front? They're excellent for getting shims out, and replacing them.
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                • timebombprod
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                  • Nov 2019
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                  • spring hill florida

                  #9
                  is there any object i can measure that is common in a household that could show me my caliper is accurate, like a quarter or something
                  Ian

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                  • storm 64
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by timebombprod
                    is there any object i can measure that is common in a household that could show me my caliper is accurate, like a quarter or something
                    You have me thinking. A standard sheet of notebook paper is .0035 of a inch. A nickel outside diameter is .836
                    Last edited by storm 64; 02-22-2020, 08:19 PM.
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                    • robertbarr
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                      #11
                      Measure a few of your larger feeler gauges.
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                      • timebombprod
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                        • Nov 2019
                        • 1666
                        • spring hill florida

                        #12
                        Originally posted by robertbarr
                        Measure a few of your larger feeler gauges.
                        dang dude thats a really good idea thanks man i wish i thought of that

                        update: the caliper's inaccurate unless i am doing it wrong, for my shims ive got all the same reading consistently but the feeler gauges were on one time and off the rest.
                        Last edited by timebombprod; 02-23-2020, 07:01 AM.
                        Ian

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                        • Rich82GS750TZ
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                          #13
                          if you?re still doing it like this:
                          Originally posted by timebombprod
                          i put the shim in place on the caliper first where it wont fall down sitting between the clamps and the turned on, took out shim, and closed gap. is that a good method?
                          Instead if like this:
                          Originally posted by robertbarr
                          1) Turn on calipers.
                          2) Press jaws together -- not forcefully, just press the measuring surfaces together.
                          3) Press the 'Zero' button, and make sure you've selected millimeters.
                          4) Use the roller thingy to open the jaws a bit wider than the thickness of the shim.
                          5) Put shim between jaws, roughly centered.
                          6) Use roller to close jaws onto the shim.
                          7) Read the thickness on the LCD.

                          Here's a video: https://www.google.com/search?channe...u0PEP87yIiAQ34
                          ...then I think you?re doing it wrong. Turn on the caliper, ?zero? it, then do your measuring.
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                          • LAB3
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by timebombprod
                            is there any object i can measure that is common in a household that could show me my caliper is accurate, like a quarter or something
                            How about your feeler gauges?
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                            • ddaniels
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                              • Aug 2009
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                              #15
                              Shims can wear down over time too which would measure less than they are marked.
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