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  • wolfman

    #1

    the saga continues (is it my stator)

    OK I have a 83 850GL. I went through the stator papers. My R/R was bad and replaced it. I am have some charging issues and want to make sure it is the stator before buying one. I charged the battery and left it for a week it held the charge around 12.8 I hooked up the multimeter to the battery and started it, it went down to 12.2 I revved it to 5K and no change in the volts. I tested the leads coming off the stator for charge and I get about 60V. I am thinking it is the stator but I don't want to spend the money if it is something else.
  • bonanzadave
    Forum Guru
    Past Site Supporter
    • Jul 2006
    • 9623
    • Minnesota

    #2
    If you get 60 VAC on any combination of the 3 stator wires I dont think the Stator is bad.

    Where did you get the replacement RR ?
    82 1100 EZ (red)

    "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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    • wolfman

      #3
      I got it from Duaneage

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      • bonanzadave
        Forum Guru
        Past Site Supporter
        • Jul 2006
        • 9623
        • Minnesota

        #4
        Originally posted by wolfman
        I got it from Duaneage
        I just did too. I checked my Stator output and had 60 VAC on the 3 legs. I installed Duanes RR last night and on my way to work I had a solid 14.5VDC.
        82 1100 EZ (red)

        "You co-opting words of KV only thickens the scent of your BS. A thief and a putter-on of airs most foul. " JEEPRUSTY

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        • jbs80106

          #5
          maybe stating the obvious...

          recheck the wiring. I recall there may be more wires coming off your regulator, than the OEM one had. Did you ground the regulator to the neg battery terminal?

          Sorry can't help much more than that. I've not done the upgrade....

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          • tkent02
            Forum LongTimer
            Past Site Supporter
            • Jan 2006
            • 35571
            • Near South Park

            #6
            So all three combinations of stator wires give the same voltage when you rev it up? That's what it's supposed to do.
            Have you gone through all the connectors, cleaned all the grounds, and done the entire test procedure in the stator papers?
            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

            Life is too short to ride an L.

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            • spyug

              #7
              As the guys keep stressing, lots of the problems with electricals are a result of 1) corrosion at connectors 2) bad or ineffective grounds.

              Take all your connectors and grounds apart and clean them well before you get deep into your testing. This may sort out your issues. Also, run that negative lead from the R/R to the negative battery post. That is a terrific mod and sorts out a lot of charging problems.

              It does not sound like your stator if your getting the voltage stated.

              Duaneage's R/R should be working properly but I suppose a dud may have gotten past him. Are you sure it is hooked up correctly? Perhaps you can verify with him.

              These charging woes are a royal PITA but with a bit of perserverence, you'll get it working right.

              Let us know what else you find.

              Good luck with it.

              Cheers,
              Spyug.

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              • wolfman

                #8
                I just got a 2nd set of hand and redid the tests. The Stator is BAD it is only putting out 30V at 4k RPM.

                Edit:
                Might help if the 2nd set of hands *cough* wife *cough* read the meter right. We are getting about 75 volts on all 3 legs.
                (posted by the wife herself!)
                Last edited by Guest; 06-17-2008, 07:22 PM.

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                • wolfman

                  #9
                  More ideas?

                  We have checked all connections. We have grounded the r/r to the battery. We have cleaned all grounds. We are going to take the battery to have it tested. The po had it outside dead all winter, so it could be a problem.

                  Wouldn't think there was anything wrong with the charging system except that the bike had to be pushed home a week ago, and the volts aren't rising when we rev it to 4000.

                  Any other ideas?

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                  • BassCliff

                    #10
                    Cooking with electrons

                    Hi Mr. wolfman,

                    The stator output should be equal on all three legs and at least 60-70 volts AC or better on each leg (total = 180-210 volts or better). There is an illustrated test procedure and other information on my website. Feel free to visit.

                    If you have 75 volts total then your stator may be having issues. Have you gone through the diagnostic steps in The Stator Papers? That document is a nice piece of work. Keep us informed.

                    Thank you for your indulgence,

                    BassCliff

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                    • wolfman

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BassCliff
                      Hi Mr. wolfman,

                      The stator output should be equal on all three legs and at least 60-70 volts AC or better on each leg (total = 180-210 volts or better). There is an illustrated test procedure and other information on my website. Feel free to visit.

                      If you have 75 volts total then your stator may be having issues. Have you gone through the diagnostic steps in The Stator Papers? That document is a nice piece of work. Keep us informed.

                      Thank you for your indulgence,

                      BassCliff
                      We have 75 volts running off of each leg ie A-B=75V B-C=75V A-C=75V

                      We have been going through the stator papers! Great source! I also just downloaded the factory manual from your site. Thanks for putting that site together. It really helps us newbies.

                      We went and got the battery tested tonight. It is fully charged and shows no bad cells. I think I am going to take a step back and start from the beginning again. Obviously there is something we've missed. I'll start at all the connectors and grounds and work our way from there ... again.

                      Sincerely,
                      Wolfie's Wife

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Check the R/R.
                        Are you sure you have the sense wire hooked up to a live wire that kicks on with the ignition switch? If you split into the brake switch make sure it's the live one going in.
                        Without the sense wire connected properly the R/R won't work.

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                        • wolfman

                          #13
                          I have it hooked into the white wire on the brake light. I that the right one? or should it be hooked up to the orange.

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            The wire you hook into should be hot with the ignition on.

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                            • SqDancerLynn1

                              #15
                              Your hooked up wrong check with the meter should be the orange wire
                              NOT the white

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