The factory messed up my 1150!

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    #1

    The factory messed up my 1150!

    Here's a good one for ya:

    My 1150 just turned over 6100 miles. So I decide to do a valve check and give her a tune up and complete detail. I've never even taken off the fuel screw caps, so I decided I'd do that too since I now have a Colortune, and I have always had two plugs (2 and 3) that were a tad leaner than the other ones.

    When I put my bike into storage originally, the carbs were taken off and flushed and stored properly. They have never been taken apart for anything except to empty the bowls. So I'm taking them apart, and I noticed that Suzuki put the main jets in wrong! They are supposed to have 120's on 1 and 4, and 122.5's on 2 and 3. Instead they were put in 122.5, 120, 120, 122.5. 1 and 4 fuel screws were set at 3/4 turns out, and 2 and 3 were set at 2 turns out. So sounds like they even tried to compensate for the mix-up!

    So now (23 years later) everything is back where it should be. I'll be hooking up gas and synching/colortuning in the morning. :-?
  • Tom MLC

    #2
    Originally posted by renobruce
    Here's a good one for ya:

    My 1150 just turned over 6100 miles. So I decide to do a valve check and give her a tune up and complete detail. I've never even taken off the fuel screw caps, so I decided I'd do that too since I now have a Colortune, and I have always had two plugs (2 and 3) that were a tad leaner than the other ones.

    When I put my bike into storage originally, the carbs were taken off and flushed and stored properly. They have never been taken apart for anything except to empty the bowls. So I'm taking them apart, and I noticed that Suzuki put the main jets in wrong! They are supposed to have 120's on 1 and 4, and 122.5's on 2 and 3. Instead they were put in 122.5, 120, 120, 122.5. 1 and 4 fuel screws were set at 3/4 turns out, and 2 and 3 were set at 2 turns out. So sounds like they even tried to compensate for the mix-up!

    So now (23 years later) everything is back where it should be. I'll be hooking up gas and synching/colortuning in the morning. :-?
    that explains why you only beat that V-ROD by .03 seconds!

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    • Guest

      #3
      I thought the inside cylinders (2&3) would run hotter so a leaner jet would be needed.

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      • Guest

        #4
        They run bigger jets in the middle because of the heat. A bigger jet would richen the center two, making them run cooler.

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          #5
          84 GS1150

          Type----------------- Mikuni BS36SS
          I.D. NO. -------------00A10
          Bore -----------------36mm
          Idle r/min----------- 1100+or- 100r/min
          Fuel level------------ 3.0 +- 0.5 mm
          Float height---------- 21.4 +- 1.0 mm
          Main jet ------------- #120(nos.1&4),#122.5(nos 2&3)
          jet needle------------ 5D14
          Needle jet ----------- X-3
          Pilot jet ---------------#45
          By pass--------------- 0.9,0.8,0.9 mm
          pilot outlet------------ 0.9 mm
          Valve seat------------ 2.0 mm
          Starter jet------------ #32.5
          Pilot screw------------ PRE-SET (2 turns back)
          Throttle valve--------- #130
          pilot air jet------------- #125
          Throttle cable play-----2-3 mm
          choke cable play-------0.5-1.0 mm
          __________________

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          • Guest

            #6
            Originally posted by Tom MLC
            that explains why you only beat that V-ROD by .03 seconds!
            I smell a rematch!

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            • Guest

              #7
              do you think you can claim a set of replacement carbs under the manufacturer's warranty?





              what??? with 6100miles the bike is practically NEW, eh?


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              • rustybronco
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                #8
                Originally posted by psyguy
                do you think you can claim a set of replacement carbs under the manufacturer's warranty?
                No but you could try for a A.W.A. (after warranty adjustment)!

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                • Dave8338
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                  #9
                  This has to be the one and only time a factory has had things messed up from the get go. Never happens...

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave8338
                    This has to be the one and only time a factory has had things messed up from the get go. Never happens...
                    Yes, I'm sure mine was the only one.* I'm surprised I didn't notice a performance issue. Maybe it's because I'm at high altitude (5,200 ft.) or because I've never ridden another 1150. She should run better!

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                    • earlfor
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by renobruce
                      Yes, I'm sure mine was the only one.* I'm surprised I didn't notice a performance issue. Maybe it's because I'm at high altitude (5,200 ft.) or because I've never ridden another 1150. She should run better!
                      I ran my 1150 with 122.5 on all cylinders. It seemed to run slightly better than with the stock arrangement. Ran it about 50K miles like that, no problems, and it gets hot in So Fl.

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                      • Planecrazy

                        #12
                        Originally posted by renobruce
                        She should run better!
                        ...and very soon we'll all know whether she does, eh, Bruce? :-)

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Planecrazy
                          ...and very soon we'll all know whether she does, eh, Bruce? :-)
                          Yeah, I'll let you know! And maybe throw in some pics since she's sooo clean right now!

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                          • Steve
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by renobruce
                            And maybe throw in some pics since she's sooo clean right now!
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                            • KEITH KRAUSE
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                              #15
                              Good find Bruce. Just goes to show "factory" installed still means installed by a human being.
                              And on the seventh day,after resting from all that he had done,God went for a ride on his GS!
                              Upon seeing that it was good, he went out again on his ZX14! But just a little bit faster!

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