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  • crag antler
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    • Jun 2002
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    • Florida Cracker in North Carolina

    #1

    How does this plug look??

    Pulled the plugs out of my '83 1100E and they all looked like this one

    Just a little black on the end but not wet or fuel smell.
    Am I correct in thinking it is running too rich??
    If so, I may have to put the other jets,#105's, back in.
    Thanks as always.
    Doug aka crag antler

    83GS1100E, gone
    2000 Kawasaki Concours
    Please wear ATGATT
  • Clone

    #2
    Does the carbon wipe off with the tip of your finger, if so it would lead me to beleive oil fouling. If it is hard, rich, it also looks glazed or is that the light?

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    • rapidray
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      • Oct 2006
      • 8195
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      #3
      Looks to ME like it is oiling! Ray.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Looks oil fouled to me. Since you have the plugs out, might as well as do a compression check.

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        • Guest

          #5
          Any heat range color on the threads? I don't see any but there is a glare.

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          • crag antler
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            #6
            No color range on the threads. Just the color on the tips.
            Top end is rebuilt with new rings,new valve seals and fresh gaskets.
            Haven't had it running too much since rebuild and just trying to button her up.
            I put new plugs in and will run her to see what they look like.
            Doug aka crag antler

            83GS1100E, gone
            2000 Kawasaki Concours
            Please wear ATGATT

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            • crag antler
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              #7
              Originally posted by Clone
              Does the carbon wipe off with the tip of your finger, if so it would lead me to beleive oil fouling. If it is hard, rich, it also looks glazed or is that the light?
              It is hard. Tried to wipe it off and anything that does come off with pressure, has a fuel smell
              Must be rich.
              Doug aka crag antler

              83GS1100E, gone
              2000 Kawasaki Concours
              Please wear ATGATT

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              • JHawkins

                #8
                Maybe she just needs a good hard flogging to seat the rings if she hasn't been run much.

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                • trippivot
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                  • Aug 2006
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                  #9
                  there a lot of miles on that plug and poor air filteration. how often do you clean and oil your air filters?

                  not readable for fine tuning
                  SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Were those plugs read at a certain throttle opening? You need to do plug chops at minimum, 1/3-1/2, and full throttle to determine where you have a problem if it is in fact running rich.

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                    • focus frenzy

                      #11
                      what ignition system are you running and what mods to the ignition?

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                      • crag antler
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by trippivot
                        there a lot of miles on that plug and poor air filteration. how often do you clean and oil your air filters?

                        not readable for fine tuning
                        Not too many miles. I think it is only in hours.
                        Air filter clean. Stock one so it's not oiled.
                        Should it be?
                        I never have/had in the years O wned her.
                        Doug aka crag antler

                        83GS1100E, gone
                        2000 Kawasaki Concours
                        Please wear ATGATT

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                        • crag antler
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by focus frenzy
                          what ignition system are you running and what mods to the ignition?
                          Stock ignition as it is has always been.
                          Only thing I have ever done electrical to her is the standard new R/R,stator and coils.
                          Doug aka crag antler

                          83GS1100E, gone
                          2000 Kawasaki Concours
                          Please wear ATGATT

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                          • crag antler
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                            #14
                            With new plugs in,I started her up today and after warming up for about 8 minutes she settled down into a somewhat good idle. Had good throttle response with only a tiny bit of smoke. It smelled like fuel and not oil burning so I think I just need to put the 105's back in and do a carb synch.
                            Thanks for all the help.
                            Doug aka crag antler

                            83GS1100E, gone
                            2000 Kawasaki Concours
                            Please wear ATGATT

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                            • Guest

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crag antler
                              With new plugs in,I started her up today and after warming up for about 8 minutes she settled down into a somewhat good idle. Had good throttle response with only a tiny bit of smoke. It smelled like fuel and not oil burning so I think I just need to put the 105's back in and do a carb synch.
                              Thanks for all the help.
                              If you were just idleing the bike, your main jets aren't even being used. You might just need to adjust the pilot fuel screws.

                              As stated before, you need to do plug chops to see which circuit is running rich.

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