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  • rlong74

    #1

    pilot jet

    Hello,
    While cleaning the carbs on my '81 450T i noticed the pilot jets are marked 22.5. My manual says stock was 17.5. I don't run pods and my exhaust is stock. Can anyone think why the PO may have done this? And will this increase fuel consumption?
    Thanks for looking.
    P.S.
    I dipped 'em
  • Guest

    #2
    It will increase fuel consumption.
    Pull the spark plugs. Are they dark?

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    • GQROD

      #3
      PO's often do this thinking more gas means higher horsepower gains.

      It doesn't unless paired with equal amounts of air flow ie: pods, free flow exhaust, cams etc.

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      • don_gibb6512

        #4
        Originally posted by rlong74
        Hello,
        While cleaning the carbs on my '81 450T i noticed the pilot jets are marked 22.5. My manual says stock was 17.5. I don't run pods and my exhaust is stock. Can anyone think why the PO may have done this? And will this increase fuel consumption?
        Thanks for looking.
        P.S.
        I dipped 'em

        A step up in pilot jet size won't increase fuel consumption so much that it would be that noticeable.

        You don't have pods but do you have a K&N air filter? How does the bike idle and run in the 1/8 - 1/4 throttle range? And as stated, are your plugs black and sooty or tan/brown? Does the bike bog just off idle or does it respond crisp and quick? Also check the turns on the pilot fuel/air screw. How many turns out?

        If the bike is running good and the plugs are burning tan/brown, then leave it the way it is.

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        • chuckycheese
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          • May 2002
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          • The Gulf Coast of south Florida in the winter and northern Nevada in the summer

          #5
          carb kits....yuchhh

          I suspect that it happens pretty often because someone uses a 'carb kit' that is either not the right one or one that contains parts for several different models.
          1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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          • rphillips
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            • Jun 2005
            • 7612
            • Norene TN

            #6
            I'd think it was to make the bike start better. Some of these old GS's were very lean on the pilot circuit & were hard to start without a lot of choke, the larger pilots make them start much easier. the fuel consumption will be so slight, you would never know, even if you stayed at a Holiday INN Express last night. If the mains were 2 sizes larger than stock, you may notice, lower mpg.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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            • chuckycheese
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              • May 2002
              • 3869
              • The Gulf Coast of south Florida in the winter and northern Nevada in the summer

              #7
              screwed up

              I've bought bikes, twice, that didn't have all of the right jets....and they didn't run worth a damn until I put in the correct ones.
              1980 GS1100E....Number 15!

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              • rlong74

                #8
                Originally posted by don_gibb6512
                A step up in pilot jet size won't increase fuel consumption so much that it would be that noticeable.

                You don't have pods but do you have a K&N air filter? How does the bike idle and run in the 1/8 - 1/4 throttle range? And as stated, are your plugs black and sooty or tan/brown? Does the bike bog just off idle or does it respond crisp and quick? Also check the turns on the pilot fuel/air screw. How many turns out?

                If the bike is running good and the plugs are burning tan/brown, then leave it the way it is.
                I have a stock air filter.. The bike idles fine when cool but hangs when hot. It will come back down with just a light tap on the throttle or slowly sometimes on it's own.. It does respond crisp and quick. It is presently 1 1/2 turns on the screw and the plugs are the tan/brown color.
                Thank you all for your input. Once again this site has proved invaluable.

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                • Steve
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                  • Jun 2005
                  • 35925
                  • southwest oHIo

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rphillips
                  ... even if you stayed at a Holiday INN Express last night. ...
                  Gee, I wonder what that says about my qualifications?

                  I spent a whole MONTH there just a few weeks ago.

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