GS1000 clutch hub rebuild

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  • 80GS1000

    #1

    GS1000 clutch hub rebuild

    The GS1000 has had the (in)famous clutch rattle at idle since I bought it with about 30K miles on the clock. From reading in the forum archives this is caused by the clutch basket springs starting to sag and break up.

    Cheaper option:

    Replace existing clutch basket with lower mileage unit. Will this solve the rattling issue?

    More expensive option:

    Falicon makes a GS1000 clutch hub rebuild kit.



    Does APE make a clutch hub rebuild kit anymore?

    Where would be a good place to send out my clutch hub to get this rebuild kit installed? Apparently you need a press, a welder, and someone experienced to install the kit.
    Last edited by Guest; 12-21-2008, 05:31 AM.
  • Tarbash 27

    #2
    I bought the clutch rebuild kit from schnitz and did it myself. I used this method of clamping it and welding it, but with the new hardware.

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    • first timer
      Forum Sage
      • Aug 2002
      • 3429
      • Tucson, Arizona

      #3
      I just had stan gardener do mine while he was working on my crank. I think he use falicon stuff.
      78 GS1000 Yosh replica racer project, 82 Kat 1000, 10 990 ADV-R, Some dirt bikes

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      • tkent02
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        Past Site Supporter
        • Jan 2006
        • 35571
        • Near South Park

        #4
        Originally posted by 80GS1000

        Replace existing clutch basket with lower mileage unit. Will this solve the rattling issue?
        Probably not, those springs have been in there a long time whether it has been used or not.
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        • Guest

          #5
          Are you sure your hub nut isn't loose? It could just be that.

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          • srsupertrap
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            Past Site Supporter
            • Oct 2007
            • 2208
            • Erie, CO.

            #6
            Last year, I bought the clutch rebuild kit from schnitz. I was quoted a price of $225 for the entire job including the kit. I shipped them my GS1000 clutch hub and they had Falicon do the job which included balancing the clutch hub. When the job was done Schnitz bumped the price to $299 and said Oh, so sorry we made a mistake on our quote . Dave Schnitz did not even reply to my e-mail, nice . . . get in writing.

            I agree with everyone and the attached article you can have any proficient machinist perform the job. Falicon did an excellent job and since they are so familiar with process I would suggest using them.
            Steve

            1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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            • 80GS1000

              #7
              Thanks as always for the help.

              Originally posted by tkent02
              Probably not, those springs have been in there a long time whether it has been used or not.
              So would it make sense to get a new OEM clutch basket from Suzuki? With the AMA discount from Bikebandit, you can get a new basket for about $225 while the rebuild would be about $300. What other hard parts other than the clutch fibers and steels might need replacing or inspection while the clutch is apart?

              Originally posted by renobruce
              Are you sure your hub nut isn't loose? It could just be that.
              Good idea, will check that when disassembling.

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              • blowerbike
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                GSResource Superstar
                • Aug 2008
                • 7057
                • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                #8
                Originally posted by 80GS1000
                Thanks as always for the help.



                So would it make sense to get a new OEM clutch basket from Suzuki? With the AMA discount from Bikebandit, you can get a new basket for about $225 while the rebuild would be about $300. What other hard parts other than the clutch fibers and steels might need replacing or inspection while the clutch is apart?



                Good idea, will check that when disassembling.

                those numbers are over 500 bucks..(oem basket+HD rebuild)
                i think(if there still available) you can get a billet basket for that kind of money...
                also,
                if your not in a hurry you can surf the net for a nice used HD 1000 basket or even a used billet basket.
                its winter time...no rush
                also...
                call john pearson and ask him about pricing for new and if he has any used HD baskets,
                alot of times driveline shops end up with the customers old helical parts and can be bought for a great price!!!
                i sell used HD baskets for 200 and up depending on model of suzuki.
                i have no used HD baskets at this moment.
                937-839-9723 pearson racing

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                • Tarbash 27

                  #9
                  I think for the extra $75, its worth having those heavy duty springs, larger rivets, and the much thicker backing plate. Plus its welded, not riveted. Its real easy to do it yourself.

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                  • 80GS1000

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blowerbike
                    those numbers are over 500 bucks..(oem basket+HD rebuild)
                    i think(if there still available) you can get a billet basket for that kind of money...
                    also,
                    if your not in a hurry you can surf the net for a nice used HD 1000 basket or even a used billet basket.
                    its winter time...no rush
                    also...
                    call john pearson and ask him about pricing for new and if he has any used HD baskets,
                    alot of times driveline shops end up with the customers old helical parts and can be bought for a great price!!!
                    i sell used HD baskets for 200 and up depending on model of suzuki.
                    i have no used HD baskets at this moment.
                    937-839-9723 pearson racing
                    Thanks...sorry if that wasn't clear...either get a new OEM basket OR get the existing one rebuilt...but I wonder if the same rattling problem will just come back sometime down the line with an OEM unmodified basket.

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                    • srsupertrap
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                      Past Site Supporter
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2208
                      • Erie, CO.

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 80GS1000
                      Thanks...sorry if that wasn't clear...either get a new OEM basket OR get the existing one rebuilt...but I wonder if the same rattling problem will just come back sometime down the line with an OEM unmodified basket.
                      The torision springs on the new OEM basket will sack out over time and you will have the same rattling problems so many GS1000 owners share. The H/D welded clutch hub will eliminate that problem permanently because the springs are stouter.
                      Steve

                      1979 GS1000E (45 Yrs), 1981 GPz550 (11 Yrs)

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                      • blowerbike
                        Forum Guru
                        GSResource Superstar
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7057
                        • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                        #12
                        clutch baskets are like press pin crankshafts...
                        you dont have any idea if your basket is rebuildable until its disasembled.
                        alot of baskets that ive rebuilt have had cracked webbing(spring area) in the gear itself that you cant see until its been takin apart..
                        if thats the case..you have to buy another stock basket and start the process over again.
                        the side loads of the helical gear on a stock basket is evil.
                        be aware.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Originally posted by renobruce
                          Are you sure your hub nut isn't loose? It could just be that.
                          Originally posted by 80GS1000

                          Good idea, will check that when disassembling.
                          Take your oil fill cap off and reach in there with your finger and try and wiggle the clutch. If it wiggles, there's your problem.

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Get a HD with your mods.

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                            • 80GS1000

                              #15
                              Originally posted by chef1366
                              Get a HD with your mods.
                              You mean a billet basket or the HD rebuild on the stock basket?

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