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  • elwaxoro

    #1

    Mixture plug removal?

    I've got my '80 550L carbs off and have begun the cleaning process...
    EDIT: I took a look at the carb reference, and I guess I'm talking about the air screw.
    The mixture screws all have their plug with the pinhole. I tried the screw technique, and promptly broke the tip of the screw off in the hole . I drilled this out, but haven't tried anything else yet.

    How thick is this plug? When I drilled it, it seemed pretty substantial.
    How much does it take to get this thing loose? I put a lot of force on it, but it didn't budge at all.
    Can I get away with leaving this in? I've seen the broken carb pics...
    Last edited by Guest; 01-26-2009, 12:16 PM.
  • Steve
    GS Whisperer
    • Jun 2005
    • 35925
    • southwest oHIo

    #2
    If you have any hope at all of completely cleaning your carbs, you must remove them.

    Thickness? About 4-5mm and there is about that much room below it before hitting the screw. Friction fit around the outer edge, so just keep working at it.

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    • focus frenzy

      #3
      generally they are 1/8-3/16th thick but more importantly, the air screw is just underneath and is nice soft brass.common to go to far and drill the air screw.I would recommend trying a better quality screw and plenty good quality penetrate.

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      • not a biker

        #4
        are you sure you are removing the right plug ?

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        • tkent02
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          • Jan 2006
          • 35571
          • Near South Park

          #5
          Twist the drill by hand, don't use a power drill. Once you are through try sticking the chuck end of the bit in the hole and prying it out.

          And then use a screwdriver that fits really well, the screw may be stuck pretty good after 28 years.
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          • cutlass79500

            #6
            i use a drill if your not sure wrap tape around the bit about 1/8 in up so you dont drill to far. i use a bit a little bigger then the hole when the bit is about to go thru it will pop the plug right out . just drill slow removed probbibly 50 to 100 that way never had a problem

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            • elwaxoro

              #7
              Got one out!
              A small propane torch was the key for getting the screw out without stripping it (more). On a related note, is there a way to repair a slightly stripped head? I was able to get it out, but I'm worried that future removals. Can I grind the slot deeper or something?

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              • Steve
                GS Whisperer
                • Jun 2005
                • 35925
                • southwest oHIo

                #8
                Originally posted by elwaxoro
                Got one out!
                On a related note, is there a way to repair a slightly stripped head? I was able to get it out, but I'm worried that future removals. Can I grind the slot deeper or something?
                You might be able to grind a deeper slot, but if you keep riding the bike or store it properly for the winter, you should never have to remove them again.

                To grind a deeper slot, you might try a Dremel tool with a thin cutting disk and a VERY steady hand.

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                mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                Family Portrait
                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Steve's right. A dremmel works great. I've used it to remove stuck screws in the carb bodies also.

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                  • diesel

                    #10
                    Originally posted by elwaxoro
                    Got one out!
                    A small propane torch was the key for getting the screw out without stripping it (more). On a related note, is there a way to repair a slightly stripped head? I was able to get it out, but I'm worried that future removals. Can I grind the slot deeper or something?
                    IIRC there's not a lot of thickness between the bottom of the slot and the shaft of the screw. I think it makes more sense to cut a new slot the same depth as the original but offset 90 degrees from the original.

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                    • Steve
                      GS Whisperer
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 35925
                      • southwest oHIo

                      #11
                      Originally posted by diesel
                      IIRC there's not a lot of thickness between the bottom of the slot and the shaft of the screw. I think it makes more sense to cut a new slot the same depth as the original but offset 90 degrees from the original.
                      If you cut a different slot, you will have far less (soft) metal there to support your turning efforts.
                      Personally, I would rather cut the existing groove a little deeper.

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                      mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                      hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                      #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                      Family Portrait
                      Siblings and Spouses
                      Mom's first ride
                      Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                      (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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