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  • tlg1100
    Forum Sage
    • Dec 2008
    • 1448
    • Thomas

    #1

    another 1100

    I just purchased another 1981 gs 1100 E. Smokes but runs good, was thinking about just putting valve seals to see if it helps. Compression good, Want to do that without taking head off.dont know if anyone done that and if so any suggestions.do rocker arms have to come off thanks
  • Big T
    Forum LongTimer
    Past Site Supporter
    Super Site Supporter
    • Mar 2005
    • 12392
    • West Slope, OR

    #2
    If the bike has been sitting, I'd first try to see if the rings may be an issue.

    Put a small dose of Marvel Mystery Oil in each cylinder and ride it for a ways. The MMO will make it smoke more , but will fade away soon.

    If you do find you need new valve stem seals, the cams, rockers and springs have to come off. You will need a specialized valve spring compressor and probably need to pressurize the cylinder to hold the valves in place.
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES

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    • tlg1100
      Forum Sage
      • Dec 2008
      • 1448
      • Thomas

      #3
      It has not been sitting, but petcock let fuel into crankcase and was rode 12 miles before they found out. They said oil was changed 2 time and lived with it smoking. Ive heard there is a way to tell if its valve seals or rings dont remember thanks
      Last edited by tlg1100; 02-03-2009, 06:14 PM. Reason: add

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      • blowerbike
        Forum Guru
        GSResource Superstar
        • Aug 2008
        • 7057
        • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

        #4
        your valve guides would have to be egg shaped for it to smoke that bad.
        anytime ive seen this before...its been the rings/cyl. scratches from the metal to metal contact.
        gas washing the cylinders down is bad bad.

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        • Guest

          #5
          The rings might seat eventually but I'd put in a new set and hone the cylinders.
          Doing the valve stem seals is always a good idea if you have it apart.

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          • kent

            #6
            In most cases, if the valve stem seals are bad, you will notice a puff of smoke on start up that will disapate within a few moments. if the rings are bad, it will smoke all the time. There is a possability that #2 clyinder has been washed down, that is where the petcock gets its vacuum signal from. I would change the oil and filter again, take it for a good long ride, and if it still smokes, your probably in for a rebuild.

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            • hampshirehog
              Forum LongTimer
              Past Site Supporter
              • Oct 2007
              • 12675
              • Hampshire. UK

              #7
              You can replace the valve stem seals with the head still on - I tried it once years ago on a GS (either a 550 or a 750, I forget) - bit of rope pushed in the plug hole to hold the valve up. However, it's waaay easier to pull the head and replace them the normal way.
              79 GS1000S
              79 GS1000S (another one)
              80 GSX750
              80 GS550
              80 CB650 cafe racer
              75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
              75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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              • duaneage
                Forum Guru
                GSResource Superstar
                • Apr 2004
                • 6149
                • Wilmington Delaware

                #8
                What are the compression numbers?
                1981 GS650G , all the bike you need
                1980 GS1000G Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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                • tlg1100
                  Forum Sage
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1448
                  • Thomas

                  #9
                  compression was very good dont have numbers ,but i was surprised because they were close and around 150?

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