1166 meltdown

[Tom MLC]

Bill, what is the speaker wire for?

[Guest]

Bill, what is the speaker wire for?

For the Black Sabbath of course!

It's tied to the cam chain.

[67fire]

Although the speaker wire is good for the Black Sabbath, I just used a coat-hanger from the frame to the cam chain.

Eric

[Tom MLC]

For the Black Sabbath of course!

It's tied to the cam chain.

Are you PARANOID the chain will fall down into the engine?

Did you have to split the chain to remove the cylinders?

[TheCafeKid]

Are you PARANOID the chain will fall down into the engine?

Did you have to split the chain to remove the cylinders?

I dont know if he's paranoid, but it kinda sucks tryin to fish that chain back up when it DOES happen.

And, i duno bout Bill, but ive never had to split the chain to remove the entire top end. Dont think you would have to at all, unless of course you had to replace the chain, then ive heard various tales on how it SHOULD be done. Some say you can get away with cracking the chain, running the new one and riveting it, other say the cases MUST be split as the chain should be continuous and NEVER pinned.

[Big T]

Blew another head gasket the other day. Decided to fix it right this time after a half-a$$ed job glueing on a head gasket and putting rings on bad pistons.
Here's the aftermath

Your mechanical info looks good, but have you called an exterminator about those piston mice??

That's one of worse cases of non catastrophic detonation I've ever seen!

[SqDancerLynn1]

Disneyland ! So did you get the pistons from Mickey.
Looks good!

[reddirtrider]

I dont know if he's paranoid, but it kinda sucks tryin to fish that chain back up when it DOES happen.

And, i duno bout Bill, but ive never had to split the chain to remove the entire top end. Dont think you would have to at all, unless of course you had to replace the chain, then ive heard various tales on how it SHOULD be done. Some say you can get away with cracking the chain, running the new one and riveting it, other say the cases MUST be split as the chain should be continuous and NEVER pinned.

I wouldn't take the chance splitting the chain. They come continuous and I'd leave them that way and split the cases and do it right. IMHO, it just isn't worth the risk.

[67fire]

I had a timing chain come "un-glued" ONCE, and it bent all of my custom made valves! So when I replaced it, I tack welded the link with a wire feed welder.

Just my .02

Eric

[reddirtrider]

I had a timing chain come "un-glued" ONCE, and it bent all of my custom made valves! So when I replaced it, I tack welded the link with a wire feed welder.

Just my .02

Eric

No need to do that if you install them without breaking. Or did you not get a continous chain?

[67fire]

It had a master link in it.

Eric

[49er]

It had a master link in it.

Eric

You can do it safely if you use a proper riveting tool. Some try to peen the rivet heads over with a hammer. Not a good choice of methods and courting link failure. The joining link doesn't have a sliding lock as drive chains do, but are designed to be riveted.

The continuous chains are all made by a designated riveting process.
I've got 12,000 kms on my Tsubaki light weight chain so far.
The endless chains are safer to use, but do you want to split the cases?

Bill, those ball bearings made some rather sharp looking pit marks.

[rapidray]

I dont know if he's paranoid, but it kinda sucks tryin to fish that chain back up when it DOES happen.

Not if you own a telescoping magnet. I NEVER tie the cam chain up. I have the tools to do the job. Ray.

[TheCafeKid]

Not if you own a telescoping magnet. I NEVER tie the cam chain up. I have the tools to do the job. Ray.

I have a telescoping magnet too Ray. They cost a buck or two at the autoparts store. Its still a pain in the ass, and I dont fancy the idea of sticking a magnet down inside a bunch of steel parts. Same theory as not using a magnet to pull valve shims. Yeah, its likely not going to magnatize anything, but why take the chance. Takes 5 seconds to hook the cam chain over a pice of pre-bent coat hanger, or with some wire.... oh dear.

[blowerbike]

Not if you own a telescoping magnet. I NEVER tie the cam chain up. I have the tools to do the job. Ray.

he said tool