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  • jjerome

    #1

    Cylinders 1 and 4 no spark

    My 1980 GS850GLT will only fire cylinders 2 and 3. I get no spark on 1 and 4. Suspected a bad coil. I swapped the input lead from the suspected coil and connected it to the good coil. That caused 2 and 3 not to fire. Does anyone know if this could be a points related issue? Any help with diagnosing would be appreciated. Thanks Jim
  • lrburke

    #2
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    I would say you have a points problem. If you did the old switchem technique then the points are what causing it in my opinion! If it was just one cylinder not firing then I would wonder but not in this case. Do you know how to set the points and all that good stuff? Larry

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    • jjerome

      #3
      Thanks for the fast response. I have not had to deal with points on this year/model. I have a few manuals. Are the points easily replaceable as a single unit?

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      • rustybronco
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        #4
        Originally posted by jjerome
        My 1980 GS850GLT will only fire cylinders 2 and 3. I get no spark on 1 and 4. Suspected a bad coil.
        You don't have points.

        check the resistance between the 1 & 4 plug caps (the things that go on the spark plugs) what is that measurement?

        see...
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        • jjerome

          #5
          Sorry to sound ignorant but how do I check resistence? I have a friend that is more knowledgeable than me and he checked the voltage to the coil. It was extremely low compared to the "good" side coil.

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          • rustybronco
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            #6
            Originally posted by jjerome
            Sorry to sound ignorant...
            No such thing. only un-asked questions. (or have not done that yet)

            you would use the same meter, but set on the resistance scale.

            if you don't have a Volt Ohm Meter, I would suggest that you buy one instead of borrowing your friends, or having to wait for them to stop on by. you can find a good workable unit for less than $20 USD at harbor freight, radio shack, big box hardware stores, ect.

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            Last edited by rustybronco; 09-02-2009, 08:34 AM.
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            • jjerome

              #7
              I have a meter. Where do I make contact with it and does bike need to be running or just Ignition switch on?

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              • 850 Combat
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                #8
                From what you have written, I would suspect a bad coil, If I undertand your meaning correctly.

                an '80 should not have points. Possibly you have a '79, as those have points. I got a '79 850G free because the PO thought the motor was bad. It needed a condenser. My nephew has been riding it for years.
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                • rustybronco
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                  #9
                  key off... knob on meter set to resistance 200K scale...
                  one lead goes into the #1 plug cap the other into the #4 plug cap.
                  De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                  • jjerome

                    #10
                    Thanks for the clear and concise instructions. I will measure it in a few and post my results.

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                    • jjerome

                      #11
                      Could be I measured wrong but I get no reading on the meter. I used the same scale on the handlebars and got a measurement there.

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                      • rustybronco
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                        #12
                        Just what i had suspected...

                        did you read the link I had posted? http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...06&postcount=2
                        it will tell you what to do next...
                        De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                        • jjerome

                          #13
                          I will do the next steps. However when I did the same resistence test on plug caps from 2 and 3, I still did not get a reading.

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                          • rustybronco
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                            #14
                            start with removing the plug caps and measuring the total resistance through the
                            [plug wire]-[coil secondary winding]-[plug wire] without the plug caps installed.

                            are you sure you had good contact with the connection(s) inside the plug caps?
                            De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                            http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                            • jjerome

                              #15
                              Pretty sure. I wiggled it around to make sure I felt some of the threads inside

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